Front panel controls show up one at a time

When I first open my main vi the controls on the front panel appear one at a time over 20-30 seconds. The problem was compounded when a second front panel was made switching between the two the controls for the second panel pop up one at a time and after they all appear the first panels controls go away one at a time. Any ideas on why this ocurs and how do I fix it so the transition happens quickly?

BenThe code is modeled on a vi that was done under LV5 and was also ported over to new computers and LV8. We had to install the traditional drivers to get that code to run on the new systems. The original vi transitions fairly quickly. The new vi is modeled on the original code with efforts being made to strip it of the overhead bagage. ie.the sequence structures and controls no longer needed..... The new code from the begining has sequentially brought up each control with each new control being added it progressively gets worse. With the addition of the second front panel in the same vi the protracted transition of the controls became a significant issue.
Bob
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