Frustrated, irritated, disappointed and extremely ticked off 16 1/2 yr Verizon Wireless customer!!!

This is a long one, so you might want to get comfortable!
As stated in the "subject", we have been with Verizon for over 16 yrs. with NEVER a change to any other service...SOLID!!! We purchased 4 Samsung Fascinate phones at Christmas and LOVED them...until the latest update about a month ago. From that moment, it has been nothing short of hell!!! Dropped calls, no calls, voicemails on calls never received, failed receiving and sending of texts, email failures, internet malfunctions or no availability, phone locks up(happened before updates periodically, but not near as often)...the list goes on and on. Probably wouldn't have noticed the issues as much had we not had FOUR...but all four of us were having problems. After about a week or so, we went into a store and were told they didn't know anything about the issue with the phone(we had already put together the fact that it had something to do with the update!) and said they would "research" it and give us a call. The next morning we received the call stating that "yes" there were problems with the update and that we would need to come in and Verizon was offering 3 NEW phone choices as replacements. (NOT "LIKE NEW REFURB" phones...NEW PHONES) We went up to the store and picked the Charge...we are not "techy" folks, we thought it was the most like ours and then the sales persons tells us it is the best one to replace ours being a 4G and all and also stated she was surprised it was on the list as a "NEW" replacement...then the circles began. The salesperson went to order them and we were told they were out of stock and that the best thing for me to do was EVERYDAY dial *611 and ask if they were back in stock at the warehouse...not that she would continue to check, God forbid there be any customer care service...but for me to do it and she handed me a "Post it" sticky with the phone listed on it and *611...I guess in case I forgot the name and #...LOL
I called the next day and was told, "Oh, no, we can't help you here. You must go into the store directly." So, I explained what I had been told and was informed that the warehouse would sent out a message to let the stores know they must handle it in-house and not let the customer call the warehouse on this issue. I was then connected back to my local store, where apparently the call "rolled over" because it connected me back to the warehouse and that representative proceeded to tell me I had to call the store. I informed him that I had and it had come back to them AGAIN! He suggested I "try the store again", so I did. And, AGAIN, it rolled over to the warehouse...I was again connected back to the store where a "precious" sales associate informed me, "yeah, we're all out of them" and also when I explained that I kept calling the store but getting the warehouse, "yeah, when we are busy or something and don't answer, it rolls over there, sorry, you'll just have to keep trying"...!!! Then, last night while speaking with customer care Noah(who was AMAZING!!!), and after almost 2 weeks of being told that they were out of stock on the Charge phones(I'm still thinking NEW phones)...in fact, there were over 9000 in the warehouse and to let him get me connected with a technician to get these ordered out to me. I was then connected to Kevin. After going through my frustrations over the past couple weeks trying to get these phones, he informed that that I was again, misinformed and that they were in fact "out of stock" on these phones! LIVID at this point, I ask how in the world can 1 minute there be over 9000 and now NONE?!? That is when I am informed of the "like new refurbished" replacement. I can only say I lost my mind in that second!!!
I realize that we are mere shads in this ginormous pond called Verizon and my tiny $280 monthly bill is nothing in the grand scheme of what is Verizon. However, I have been a LOYAL, CONSTANT for over 16 years, spending THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of hard earned dollars with them and was happy to continue to do so until now. I also realize that there are 2 other phone options for us to choose from...but now it's the principle of the matter. It's one thing for me to buy a phone and after months of wear and tear, something go wrong with it and they send a "like new refurb" phone...I get that and we have used that service several times over the SIXTEEN YEARS+ we have been with Verizon Wireless. However, this is not that same issue...I bought a NEW phone and that NEW phone was working perfectly and we were all 4 completely happy with that NEW phone until an update was sent out that made the phones completely malfunction. I also realize that it was a Samsung update...but that is between Verizon and Samsung.
I think we've proven our loyalty over the last 16 1/2 yrs to Verizon...and do not feel it is unreasonable to think that they should send us NEW phones to replace this issue between them and Samsung. In the grand scheme of that, given our long history with Verizon...they stand to make another several thousands of dollars off of us, which, I'm pretty sure would offset the cost of these Charge phones. I know we are not the only ones having issues with this phone and feel everyone deserves the same courtesy with a new phone! I'm disappointed that Verizon's actions with me on this issue has me questioning my loyalty and looking at my options with other carriers...I think I've proven that I don't like change...I wish they would prove they don't like customer change and step up and send me 4 new phones!
Sincerely,
Frustrated, irritated, disappointed and extremely ticked off 16 1/2 yr Verizon Wireless customer!!!

@ spottedcatfish
April/May 1995...you do the math sweetie...
I realize that Samsung designed the update, not Verizon...however, Verizon and Samsung have an agreement with the phones offered, therefore, Verizon accepts any updates Samsungs puts out...that has nothing to do with me, until my phone is completely jacked!
If you read my post in completion, you would see where I stated that we have had on several occasions used the "like new refurbished" phones offer on our phones. This is exactly what we are doing now, except it was never stated to us in THIS instance that it was "like new", we were told "NEW"...however, it is irrelevant as being "like new" when there are none in stock to replace ours with. That was one of my points! At this time, with them being out of stock and us battling with them for TWO WEEKS over getting FOUR phones replaced...I feel they should send new ones if that's all they have in the options offered to us. So your statement of them "doing us a favor" is a pile of cow dung...but thank you for the input...
And, again, yes we still have the Fascinate because, as stated in my post, when I call *611...they cannot help with this issue...it has to be handle in the store and they say the warehouse is "out of stock" and we should just keep calling back everyday...
Thank you for your amazing reply!

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Trying to Get Digital Life Installed is Time Consuming and Extremely Frustrating

Is anyone else having difficulties with Digital Life installation and customer service? Today, I received a call to confirm installation appointment. I needed to reschedule, so I called back and was on hold for about 10 minutes with customer service and finally hung up. I tried to change the appointment online and the website was not working. So, I called back and was on hold for 15 minutes until someone finally answered. They needed to confirm my passcode or they could not change the appointment. I can't remember the passcode. I got the digital life equipment in April - I can't remember what the passcode is! I have never used it and now it is the end of June. So, I advised that if we can't change the appointment the installation people can just show up. But, I won't be there. Very frustrating. Next available Saturday appointment is August 1st! Not available for me, so August 8th it is. More frustration. The first time installers came, they advised I needed 3 prong plugs or they could not complete the installation (would have been nice to have had that explained before I purchased all the equipment). I have an old home, so it was not as easy as it sounded, plaster walls grounding electicity and repairs to plaster walls. So just add MORE costs and MORE time to get an appointment. More frustration! I paid for all the equipment in April it is now August. More frustation! I have also been billed for the service twice now, even though nothing is installed. More frustration! Does anyone know if I can just return all the equipment to my local store? It is sitting in its boxes in my living room and I am sick of looking at it. I heard over and over while I was on hold about new wide angle cameras. I have had the equipment sitting in boxes in my lving room for so long trying to get it installed, it is now outdated. More frustration. Digital Life experience has NOT been a good one for me. I shudder to think I will have to be on hold for 15 minutes if I need help with an alarm going off. . . Not happy at all.

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I upgraded macbook to Yosemite, and now its become unbearable and extremely slow

Problem description:
I upgraded macbook to Yosemite, and now its become unbearable and extremely slow, I’ve deleted multiple files, and it is still extremely slow, I’ve also repaired disk permissions but it did little to nothing
EtreCheck version: 2.0.8 (95)
Report generated October 31, 2014 at 4:57:08 PM EDT
Hardware Information: ℹ️
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Early 2011) (Verified)
MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,1
1 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2-core
4 GB RAM Upgradeable
BANK 0/DIMM0
2 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok
BANK 1/DIMM0
2 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok
Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported
Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n
Video Information: ℹ️
Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 384 MB
Color LCD 1280 x 800
System Software: ℹ️
OS X 10.10 (14A389) - Uptime: 0:25:44
Disk Information: ℹ️
Hitachi HTS545032B9A302 disk0 : (320.07 GB)
S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified
EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB
Macintosh HD (disk1) / [Startup]: 318.84 GB (148.50 GB free)
Encrypted AES-XTS UnlockedConverting
Core Storage: disk0s2 319.21 GB Online
MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-898
USB Information: ℹ️
Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
Thunderbolt Information: ℹ️
Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
Configuration files: ℹ️
/etc/hosts - Count: 51
Gatekeeper: ℹ️
Mac App Store and identified developers
Kernel Extensions: ℹ️
/Library/Application Support/Symantec/Protector
[not loaded] com.symantec.kext.protector.panther (1.0f5) Support
[not loaded] com.symantec.kext.protector.tigerplus (1.0f5) Support
/Library/Extensions
[not loaded] xxx.qnation.PeerGuardian (1.1.9) Support
/Library/Sophos Anti-Virus/InterCheck.app
[not loaded] com.sophos.kext.sav (8.0.4 - SDK 10.5) Support
/Library/StartupItems/SymAutoProtect
[not loaded] com.Symantec.kext.SAVAPComm (11.0.6) Support
/System/Library/Extensions
[not loaded] com.wacom.kext.pentablet (5.2.5) Support
Startup Items: ℹ️
NortonMissedTasks: Path: /Library/StartupItems/NortonMissedTasks
SMC: Path: /Library/StartupItems/SMC
SymAutoProtect: Path: /Library/StartupItems/SymAutoProtect
SymProtector: Path: /Library/StartupItems/SymProtector
Startup items are obsolete and will not work in future versions of OS X
Launch Agents: ℹ️
[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist Support
[running] com.symantec.quickmenu.application.plist Support
[running] com.wacom.pentablet.plist Support
Launch Daemons: ℹ️
[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist Support
[invalid?] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist Support
[running] com.sophos.autoupdate.plist Support
[failed] com.sophos.intercheck.plist Support
[running] com.sophos.notification.plist Support
[failed] xxx.qnation.PeerGuardian.kextload.plist Support
User Launch Agents: ℹ️
[loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist Support
[invalid?] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist Support
[loaded] com.facebook.videochat.[redacted].plist Support
[loaded] com.spotify.webhelper.plist Support
User Login Items: ℹ️
None
Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️
JavaAppletPlugin: Version: 15.0.0 - SDK 10.10 Check version
FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 15.0.0.152 - SDK 10.6 Support
Default Browser: Version: 600 - SDK 10.10
AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: Version: 10.1.12 Support
AdobePDFViewer: Version: 10.1.12 Support
Flash Player: Version: 15.0.0.152 - SDK 10.6 Mismatch! Adobe recommends 15.0.0.189
QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
WacomNetscape: Version: 1.1.1-1 Support
WacomSafari: Version: 1.1.1-1 Support
Silverlight: Version: 5.1.10411.0 - SDK 10.6 Support
iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0 - SDK 10.8
Safari Extensions: ℹ️
DuckDuckGo
3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️
Flash Player Support
Time Machine: ℹ️
Time Machine not configured!
Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️
      6% WindowServer
      2% kextd
      0% AppleSpell
      0% launchd
      0% ocspd
Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️
228 MB com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
137 MB Safari
103 MB Messages
69 MB Spotlight
64 MB CalendarAgent
Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️
96 MB Free RAM
1.46 GB Active RAM
1.35 GB Inactive RAM
1.00 GB Wired RAM
2.12 GB Page-ins
9 MB Page-outs

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Loyal customer very frustrated with Verizon and Verizon wireless

Moved to Off Topic board

Early Edge works by having you turn in the phone on the line that is early edge upgraded. You then start paying for the full cost of that phone over 24 months, sooner once you get to 75% paid off on that phone, where you can trade it in and start again on another phone, but you will have lost the money already paid up to 75%. When you trade in the phone for Early Edge and then trade in the new phone for edging up, the phones must be in perfect working order with no damage of any kind.
The money "saved" comes from being on Edge where, if the phone is on a plan with 6GB or more data, you save $25 per month on each Edge phone, $15 if on a plan with less than 6GB. However, you turn around and put that $25 back onto the phone payment each month, so you DO save $25/$15 but you basically break about even on a 6GB and greater plan after the phone cost.
BUT, in the end, if you get a better, more reliable signal from ATT, and you have an awful signal with VZW, you might consider a switch, but you'd have a large sum of ETFs at this point to cancel all 5 lines. There are also special stipulations as to who and when one can Edge up or start Early Edge, such as 6 months straight on-time payments.
Verizon Edge FAQs | Verizon Wireless
Early Edge is basically just starting the Edge plan early, so the above page should answer a lot of the questions regarding eligibility. Be warned however, that there are a lot of people with issues who decided to take advantage of this program, namely the trade-in process of sending old phones back and then finding charges on their bill for phones that were "not" received at the warehouse.
It is my opinion that you should not go this route, because if you have less than stellar service now, you are setting yourself up for possible frustration and another 2 years of disappointment.

My Many Irritations (story) and a New Solved Problem (video playback)

This topic is just going to ramble through the many things that have irritated me about my iPod since the purchase only three weeks ago. Don't get me wrong, though, I still love the thing. For the most serious problems, check out Numbers 3 and 11.
Lets see... where to begin...
I originally had no interest in the iPod, but some time after the unveiling of the fifth generation's new capabilities a friend of mine started talking about it quite a lot. And so, some time in early November, my hype for the video iPod had grown greatly. I downloaded Videora iPod converter and started converting music videos like crazy.
By the time December rolled in I had successfully converted almost all of my 150 or so music videos and imported them into iTunes. With Christmas coming up I was wondering if I should just ask for it as a gift, but impatience set in and I bought it on the fifth of December, and have greatly enjoyed it since.
Sounds peachy, but there's a fair bit that I left out.
Number 1. I love viewing movie trailers on Apple's website. But with the recent update to the quicktime software, it was required to get the updated version. With that came iTunes, a program that was at the time unwanted and an irratation.
Number 2. Videora iPod Converter has it's fair share of bugs. While I successfully converted many a video with it, I found it would 100% of the time fail to convert files of the .wmv format (Windows Media). As well, I would later find a more serious problem.
Number 3. On the first day of using the iPod I had a serious error. I had been watching videos just fine all day, and the iPod was working perfectly. I then chose a video to play and inexplicably the iPod froze. These are the symptoms: black screen, backlight on, no responce from controls.
Tired, as it was the end of the day, I was unwilling to go to the computer room and attempt to find a solution online. And so, I gambled that the backlight would drain the battery and hoped that upon a recharge, everything would be fine. As the backlight was illuminating my bedroom, I put the iPod in it's sleeve to dim it a bit and went to sleep.
As you can imagine, this was kind of scary. I was afraid that I had bricked my iPod on it's first day.
In the morning, the battery had died and I was able to recharge it by syncing it with my computer. After charging, I tried a few videos and then tried the offending video. Again it froze, but this time I was confident that the backlight would drain the battery and it would be fine.
I then looked at the folder wherin I had saved the converted video. Among all my other videos was the offending one. I played it in Quicktime 7, and everything was fine until I realized the length of the video was double what it should be. After what should be the end of the music video came two minutes of a white screen. The file size was also abnormally large, compared to the other videos.
It turns out that Videora iPod Converter can sometimes produce corrupt files, and these corrupt files will not be detected by iTunes as corrupt. Such files can be trasferred to iTunes and to your iPod without any error or problem, but will lock up your iPod when played. Now, when converting batches of videos with Videora, I scan the file-sizes to see if any are abnormally large; after all, using the same settings on a batch of similar in length videos should produce files of similar size.
It occurs to me now that the method for resetting the iPod might have worked as an alternative to draining the battery.
Number 4. I should mention that the battery life on this thing was (for me) unexpectedly low when playing videos. I'm not saying that mine is defective or anything, but I just found that the battery runs down pretty quick when playing videos; quicker than I had thought it might. Not a big problem, though.
Number 5. In a search to find something to convert my .wmv videos to an iPod compatible format I found the ImToo converter. It works quite well, but the trial version is limited to videos of five minutes or less in length. I'm considering paying for the full version, but if someone knows of another reliable .wmv converter, I'd be glad to try that. For now, ImToo is good enough as most music videos are less than five minutes long, but I do have some other videos in the .wmv format that I would like to transcode.
Number 6. In mid December I went out of town for three days. Of course, I brought along my new favorite portable media player. Not surprisingly, the battery soon ran low and I was without my computer to recharge it. So I went out to a store and bought Apple's official USB Power Adapter. I thought it was kind of expensive, especially considering that they used to be BUNDLED with the older iPod models, but I was happy to find I would now be able to charge my iPod. Wrong. Something that was not made obvious to me by the package description (if it is even mentioned there) is that the darn thing needs the USB cable that came with the iPod. It does not come with one, and so if all you have is a wall socket, the USB Power Adapter, and an iPod, you're screwed. Unless it's the iPod shuffle, which apparantly is the only thing that works with the USB Power Adapter out of the box. As far as portability goes, I feel this hurts. I would have liked to keep my USB cable attached to my computer. After all, it is a pain to get to the back of my computer and keep plugging it in or unplugging it.
Number 7. I'm rather irritated with certain aspects of the iPod's interface considering music videos and regular song files. I spent a good amount of time adding artist and album tags to all of my music videos. These tags make sorting the videos in iTunes much easier.
First, the iPod's interface does not allow for the search of videos through album tags, but does through artist tags.
Second, going to Music>Albums> gives a long, cluttered list of Albums because of all of my music videos and one-hit songs that belong to only one album each.
I suppose there is a workaround.
Number 8. I recently bought another accessory for my iPod. The LOGiiX Amplified Fold-Up Speakers. A very attractive and portable set of speakers for the iPod. It comes with a little stand that holds the iPod in place, and works off of either 4 AAA Batteries or AC Power. Yet again, this is a product that DOES NOT come with the power adapter. Now, I think I MAY have one somewhere in my house... perhaps the power adapter that CAME WITH my SONY MD that is being replaced with the iPod will work....
Oh, and that little clip-on stand I mentioned? I expect it to be lost soon because when I fold up my portable speakers there is no way to clip the stand onto the outside of the speakers.
Now, as far as portability goes, I have to carry with me (at the most) seven things: the iPod, the headphones, the USB connector, the USB power adapter, the fold-up speakers, the little stand, and an AC power adapter.
Number 9. Minor irritation in my control of the clickwheel. After this long, I still accidentally select the wrong thing, and often take a fair time to get the highlight where I want. Meh, this one I'll figure out eventually.
Number 10. There was something irritating about entirely forgetting my login for my Apple ID and having to create this brand new one for today.
Number 11. Just today, I have come across a problem with the video not playing. I watched one video just fine, went to the Videos>Movies> tab and, as mentioned above, accidentally highlighted a video I did not wish to play and hit the Select button. Normally when this happens I wait until the video has loaded - when the screen goes black and the white Play symbol appears in the top left. But this time, I immediately hit the Menu button to go back to the Movies tab. The video's loading was interrupted and I went back to the Movies tab.
Now, when I select and play ANY video, after a noticable but short wait the screen goes black, another noticably longer wait and the play symbol appears, and then a black screen for a few seconds and the iPod skips ahead to the next video, which behaves in the exact same way.
I have powered down the iPod using the method of holding the pause button, but the problem persits.
My music videos can be played as songs by finding them under the Music tab, but no videos play as videos.
I am not at my home computer, and so running iPod updater or just trying to sync is not an option right now.
I will soon try to reset the iPod using the method described on Apple's support website.
EDIT Okay, the reset did the trick. Videos are playing fine now. I still want to share my iPod story, so I'll leave this here, but have changed it from being a question. Below are the instructions I followed for the reset.
RESETTING THE IPOD
1. Toggle the Hold switch on and off. (Slide it to Hold, then turn it off again.)
2. Press and hold the Menu and Select buttons until the Apple logo appears, about 6 to 10 seconds. You may need to repeat this step.

Nice Rant session:
"It turns out that Videora iPod Converter can sometimes produce corrupt files, and these corrupt files will not be detected by iTunes as corrupt. Such files can be trasferred to iTunes and to your iPod without any error or problem, but will lock up your iPod when played. Now, when converting batches of videos with Videora, I scan the file-sizes to see if any are abnormally large; after all, using the same settings on a batch of similar in length videos should produce files of similar size."
What did you expect for freeware? Nice effort but because it's free everyone thinks it's a gem. It's not. This web site has been flooded with questions that should be directed at the authors website. Video conversion and editing is not for the beginner. Sounds to me that you have a bunch of badly converted videos that are causing a lot of problems. Videora problems:
Known Bugs
Audio/Video sync
Problem - Output files can be out-of-sync. While no set pattern has been established, it seems to be more frequent with input files of 23.976 fps, non-DVD rips, and WMV/MPG filetypes.
Workaround solutions - Try the custom option '-async 1'. If the disconnect gradually increases over time, setting 29.97 fps sometimes gets rid of the problem regardless of the input fps. You can also use AviSynth to assume the FPS and have the audio sync to that. If it's a sudden disconnect, check your VOB Cell settings in DVD Decrypter settings per this thread. Otherwise, test with an AviSynth script per the DaProphecy's method in the FAQ. For non-DVD files, PSPVideo 9 may be a good short-term solution until the converter stabilizes some more or try something like AviDemux.
Audio track not getting picked up
Problem - The IFO stream rip is fine, but the converted file has no sound. The debug info showed to audio track getting picked up. The most obvious case with this is the Madagascar DVD.
Workaround solution ideas - Test with an AviSynth script per the DaProphecy's method in the FAQ (untested). Use a different DVD ripper.
Program doesn't start (.NET issue?)
Problem - Converter errors upon starting with an extended dump.
Solution ideas - Update .NET framework (in all languages you're using!) to most recent solution. Clean out registry. Neither of these have worked for some.
Progress meter incorrect
Problem - During transcodes, the progress meter can be incorrect; thus, transcoding continues after the meter hits 100% and time remaining is zero. People have been seeing this more often with VOB files and/or the H.264 codec.
Workaround - Figure out the length of your movie in seconds and compare that to the 'Processed' field. A 2-hour movie will not finish until Processed hits 7200 seconds.
Artifacts (bad video quality) in darker scenes
Problem - Scenes with darker background colors tend to have more artifacts (blocked video). It's much more obvious on the iPod, so this may be an Apple firmware problem.
Workaround ideas - Use a VBR setting (FQ->VBR, two-pass A->VBR) to improve video quality. The custom option '-mbd 2' might help.
Desktop icon
Problem - When installing, the desktop icon does not appear/stick when using lower color setups.
Workarounds - Select a 32-bit color scheme in your desktop settings, or change the icon in the shortcut.
Profile changes don't always stick
Problem - If you make a change to a profile, click apply, and immediately trancdoe with that profile, the transcode might not use the new settings.
Workarounds - Once you click apply, swtich to another profile and back again to make sure the change is still there. If that doesn't work, create a new profile.
Can only install/use with admin rights
Problem - There have been reports of non-admin users not being able to use the converter.
Workarounds - Separate installs or give all users admin rights.
Who in their right mind would use a program that has these many critical bugs to convert files for the IPOD. People who are cheap, kids with no money and people who are just plain gullably.
A little research and downloading a trial from this site would have solved your video problems early on;
http://www.divmm.com/
The 5th Gen IPOD was designed to support video content that was purchased on the ITunes web site. For everything else, you are on your own.

Frustrated, irritated, disappointed and extremely ticked off 16 1/2 yr Verizon Wireless customer!!!

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