Full upload after INIT and Delta

Hi Experts,
a quick question - If there is INIT and Delta infopackage running and I do another infopackage with full update option, will there be any issue in Delta?
when do I need to run repair? only when there is possibility of duplicate loading?
Thanks - SM

Thanks Srini/Vikram for your respone.
when there is deltas already running for the datasource , you can't request for Full but you can request using 'Repair full' which will acts and extract data as full load and it won't disturb present delta's
>>. Thanks Srini. thats bottom line... after delta, you need to run repair full not full. and repair full will also pull data from setup table (history). I was thinking repair full is for taking care of duplicate, but dups we need to remove manually.
where is repair full option in IP?
where I can see all INIT conditions for a infopackage? for example INIT was done 3-4 times.. year 2001-2002, 2002-2003 etc, so all these INIT crit should be stored somewhere?
Edited by: toti shu on Aug 31, 2010 5:08 PM
Edited by: toti shu on Aug 31, 2010 5:11 PM

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