Function of Collection Update Schedules
I am having trouble getting SCCM to update collections only when scheduled. It seems that any time a change is made to a limiting collection that triggers all collections that are dependant on that collection to refresh immediatlely. I would
like to make a change to a limiting collection and have the collecitons that are limited by that collection not update until they are scheduled to update.
I have a Collection "Main" limited by collection "Limit". If I add a computer to collection "Limit" and it meets the query requirements of collection "Main" the client gets added to "Main"
immediately instead of waiting until the scheduled time for collection "Main" to be updated. I would like to add clients to the "Limit" collection and have the "Main" collection not update until it is scheduled to update.
Any way to achieve this?
My business case doesn't say that all software should only be installed at 3:00AM. My business case says that particularly intrusive applications should install in the overnight hours. Stuff with no/low impact can install in the middle of the
day.
Envision this... I am asked to deploy some package to a list of 20 machines over night. Then the next day I am asked to deploy the same software to 30 different machines, also overnight, then 100 more the next day, then 1000 more the next day,
then 10000 more the next day. like a phased rollout.
I could build a new collection for each of these distinct collections of machines and build an advertisement for them also, and that sure would deploy a package to a those collections at the correct time.
The problem is that I'd need 6 collection and six advertisements, when I could easily get away with two collections and just rely on the colleciton update to make the package available for a certain time. I dont wanna build all those collections and
all those advertisements. I just want to make my collection get wider and wider, and I want to do it in the daytime, but not have it take affect until later.
Maitenance windows don't work for many instances. I don't believe Wake on LAN takes MWs into account. Laptops that are usually off don't work well with maintenance windows. Plenty of machines are never on during their maintenance windows,
and if you set software to deploy outside of maintenace windows after a deadline, then you have defeated the maintenance window. A week from now the deadline is past and now the software installs as soon as it is discovered. Set the deadline
into the future, and machine that are not on during their maintenance window never install the software. Maintenance windows are no panecea. It would work to create a new advertisement every time the collection was expanded, but that's unneccessary
work.
My method is more like a step function. You know? New machines get added to the standing collection with an advertisement in the past once a day at 3:00AM and the software installs at the next client policy refresh after that time. Simple and
easy. Hey here's 100 more machines that need the software. No problem, dump them into the limiter collection and then when the main collection refreshes, those new systems are added to the main collection.
The reason I do this is that I don't want to wake up at 3:00AM to drop those clients into the collection. I stage them in a pre-deployment collection and then they get added to the advertisement target collection when the collection evaluation runs on schedule.
Anyway, this worked fine in 2007, a change was made in 2012 to break it, and now I have a nice workaround in place, it is not too complicated, so problem solved.
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Incremental updates on collections/full schedule - Functional question
Hi everyone,
At a customer of mine we have the following set-up:
Almost all applications are deployed User Based
Collections are used for targetting the applications
Incremental updates are enabled on practically all collections which deploy applications
For the moment this setup is active for 498 collections (out of 714 collections).
Since it's not advised and Microsoft recommends to only have incremental updates active for 200 collections, I would like to change this setup by means of POSH. I have just finished writing it, but I still have a functional question:
Which schedule time would be best to activate for the collections? Keep the standard value to update collection every 7 days?
When would you activate "incremental updates"? Device collections with required software for faster deployment time?
I only foresee the following "downside":
We have a lot of applications who are available to "all domain users". When the AD-account is created, it will sync with SCCM and will receive their deployements. But by changing the update schedule to, let's say, 7 days.. They wouldn't be able
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Thanks for the insight with your experience!
Kr,
SvenWow Jörgen, thanks for this information! This was something I haven't read about. Will keep this in mind.
In your blog, you mention that you use this tool to keep track of performance issues. When do you feel that there are too many collections which have incremental updates enabled (by using the tool)?
The last weeks/months, we have a lot of issues during OSD. We have collections to which the TS is deployed.
In orchestrator we have a runbook to add workstations to SCCM + add workstation to collection + update membership of collection. But the update takes from 5 minutes to 40 minutes.. So this is the main issue that we have..
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How do collection updates really work?
Hi,
Few questions about collection updates.
I have been trying to figure out the most effective way to implement collection updates so, that there would be minimal delay in adding a workstation to collections. The documentation on how the updates exactly work is however a bit vague and the functionality
seems to have no clear course of action... This is going to be a long post, since there's much to describe.
We have two main collection structures. One is for software and the other one is for Active Directory.
Software structure has collections for each software and each software collection is consisted of direct members, Query rules for AD Security Group members and included collections from Active Directory collection structure.
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I have disabled all incremental and scheduled updates from each collection (excl. built-in collections) and set hourly updates on All workstations. All built-in collections are incrementally updating. Now, this should only update all workstations collection
and the rest should be left alone? Nope. When the All Workstations collection schedule triggers almost 2/3 of all other collections are refreshed too. There however seem to be no consistency what collections are updated. First I thought that all collections
which have All workstations as limiting collection would update, but it does not seem to work like that.
First question: Does anyone have any idea how the update works in this case? Does updating limiting collection affect other collections?
I have created an SQL query to easily see the last refresh time of a collection. The query also shows all manually made "Update collection membership" requests with time and what the settings are in that collection. This query is scoped on the view
"vCollections".
Second question: This list shows one extra collection which cannot be seen from ConfigMgr console. The collection has ID "SMSOTHER" and is named "All custom resources". What is this for? The collection updates on schedule and has incremental
updates turned on.
Our organization has around 900 collections in total and if all collections are updated (full update) synchronously it will take almost 30 minutes to complete (BTW, why is the performance so poor and why no async updates?). Software collections probably are
easiest to do with incrementals, but using schedule on all AD collections with the current functionality seems like an overkill. I have tried scheduled updates on different levels of the structure, but none of these seem to have the constant effect of updating
all child collections also.
How does updating one collection affect other collections? Do the included collections get updated as well?
Would be great if there was a comprehensive documentation about collection updates.
BR,
Juha-MattiHi,
First question:
Based on my knowledge, when All Workstations collection schedule triggers, all other collections related to this collection would be updated too.
Second question:
The collection “All custom resources” hasn’t been documented. I think it might be reserved for future
use.
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All,
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<i>
This statement registers the update function module specified in update_function. update_function must be a character-type field, which during execution of the statement contains the name of an update function module in uppercase letters.
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</i>
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For incremental it is a performance reason,
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg699372.aspx
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