G3 Pismo hangs at "Login Window Application Started"

Hello all,
I have been trying unsuccessfully to bring my Pismo back to life following replacing the (dead) PRAM battery. I took it to the Apple Genius Bar today. They were able to use their diagnostic goodies to see the hard drive, could not fix the problem, so re-installed Tiger....and it still will not boot.
When booted without anything more, it starts up fine, gets to the apple and spinning progress wheel, then goes to a blank blue screen and the hard drive stops.
When booted in Verbose mode, it hangs after printing 'Login Window Application Started' to the screen.
Of course this can't be the OS because it just got a clean re-install at the Apple store. Help?.....

It is the original HD that came with the machine (I bought it used from somebody who had taken very good care of it).
I am not saying that the HDD is the source of your issue, but you may want to consider it to be part of the issue. It doesn't matter how well it was cared for, as HDDs age their functionality decreases. The thin layer of lubricant on the platter thickens and becomes gummy with age and the interior heat of the computer. This spins out to the edges and causes the heads to stick, slowing up the drive. The hydroseal bearings almost literally float in lubricant, which also thickens with age and heat. The average life of an internal HDD is three to five years and if they survive past that range their performance continues to decline. I would certainly consider replacing the HDD.
I can't get it to boot from the CD. It gets to the login window and then that's all she wrote
That, too can be a function of age. I replaced the optical drive on my Pismo several years ago. I did the same for my daughter's Pismo. The issue could also be from a dirty or defective disk. Try a different disk to see if it works. If you have access to a second firewire Mac you can boot the computer from the optical drive of the other Mac with your Pismo in Firewire Target Disk Mode.
cornelius

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