G4 Dual 800 MHz - Upgrade capable from 10.3.9 to 10.5.6 Leopard?

I have seen a few similar questions to this topic but not exactly what I'm after so sorry if I am being redundant. I have a G4 (Quicksilver, I believe) dual 800 Mhz processer with 1GB SDRAM. Will this support an upgrade of the OS from 10.3.9 directly to 10.5.6? I'm mostly worried about speed and performance. My specs appear below. Thanks in advance for your advice!
*Hardware Overview:*
Machine Model: Power Mac G4
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.1)
Number Of CPUs: 2
CPU Speed: 800 MHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed: 133 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.2.5f1
*System Software Overview:*
System Version: Mac OS X 10.3.9 (7W98)
Kernel Version: Darwin 7.9.0
Boot Volume: Computer

Your computer does not meet the system requirements for Leopard. An 867 MHz or faster processor is required (single CPU - dual doesn't count.)

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