G5 repaired but somewhat butchered. Can RAM slots, heat sinks be repaired?

It seems a number of G5s are sending a message of goodbye. I recently had the power supply and boot drive replaced at an authorized Apple Repair Centre but found that 7 gig of RAM was now showing as 2 (it was all still physically there). Much removing and replacing - always getting the 3 flashes at start up - incompatible RAM. Finally all replaced in original configuration, start up OK but now shows as 4 gig of RAM with a number of slots listed as empty. I suspect the RAM and slots may have got a hard time during the repair. Can the slots be replaced or are they an integral part of the motherboard?
Also, noticing rather slow, laboured operation I've seen that CPU A is showing a die temperature of 0 degrees C while B is at around 59. A has also been listed in a number of kernel panic reports. The heat sinks towards the back of both seem rather loose and wonky. Can some sort of repair be done (probably by a different repair place)?

HI-
The machine was not properly or completely repaired.
The RAM problem is typically because of failing/broken logic board.
The heatsink should not be loose, and the condition has probably fried the CPU.
If this is an Authorized Apple Repair centers work, they +owe it to you+ to make the machine right.

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