General technical issues re ipods

Hi, this is my first post and I'm wondering if anyone out there can help me. I'm fairly computer literate for an oldie but I get irate when computers don't do what you ask them to do. I am hoping my queries can be answered without too much trouble.
We have two teenage daughters and I bought a 3rd generation ipod for the first one last year. We only had a desk top PC then so I set up iTunes for that ipod and set it to sync manually as I found when it synced automatically it removed the stuff already on the ipod but I sorted that. We now have a laptop also and I have set up file sharing between them (I think). Our first daughter now has her own laptop but she still uses the desk top PC with the itunes on to sync new tunes to her ipod. She tried putting itunes onto her laptop but it didn't seem to work. I don't know whether that was because her ipod was already registered to one iTunes account or not. What I would like to do is get her to sync her tunes to her ipod from her laptop thus freeing up the desk top, she doesn't purchase much music just copies our CD's and that but she's got a few hyndred tracks on there. Can anyone advise me how best to do this ? Also I am planning on buying our second child her own ipod for Christmas, freeing up the desk top would allow her to sync to hers from it. I am led to believe that two ipods can use the same iTunes but can anyone explain how I would do this ? They have the same tastes in music and could easily share the same iTunes but ideally the first one would have her own Itunes on her laptop and the second her own via the desk top. I am fairly sure both ipods could be used on the desk top (although not at the same time obviously) but can anybody help me with the above. Also, would I have to save the exisiting library to say, a (rewritable) CD and load them manually onto the laptop.
Any comments/links would be greatly appreciated....thanks

if you want to transfer music from computer to computer i would suggest using a USB key... sizes range from 1GB to 16GB i think.... 4GB key runs about 12 bucks.... all you have to do it select the songs from the file (probably located in 'my music') and copy and paste to the USB key.
The you can take the key and plug it into the laptop and copy and paste it into the 'my music' folder.
as far as not being able to download and install itunes on the laptop, you may want to check that she is downloading the correct file format (PC, MAC etc).
if your 2nd daughter will be using the desktop to sync then i would leave all the music as is and she can add music as she pleases..

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    With a PC, the most critical components to having everything talk nice and get along with Windows are the registry and your drivers. If suddenly something stops working that worked the day before...
    did you install anything that might have affected things? If so, then a clean uninstall/reinstall of the apple software might work. Usually I see people trying to update the ipod or restore it-- but if the ipod is working on it's own outside of the PC then there is nothing wrong with it and the problem is a driver/registry/communication or software issue on the PC.
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    Thank you for your sharing, I find it is very useful. And I do not what is the problem of your iPod, but I hope the following post to this forum may helps
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    If a sad iPod icon or an exclamation point and folder icon appears on your iPod’s screen, or with sounds of clicking or HD whirring, it is usually the sign of a hard drive problem and you have the power to do something about it now. Your silver bullet of resolving your iPod issue – is to restore your iPod to factory settings.
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60983
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    B. Try another FireWire or USB through Dock Connector cable.
    C. Try another FireWire or USB port on your computer .
    D. Try to disconnect all devices from your computer's FireWire and USB ports.
    E. Try to download and install the latest version of iPod software and iTunes
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    http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
    F. Try these five steps (known as the five Rs) and it would conquer most iPod issues.
    http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/five_rs/
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    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93651
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    A. Try to connect your iPod with another computer with the iPod updater pre-installed.
    B. Still can’t see your iPod, put it in Disk Mode and connect with a computer, instead of doing a Restore on iPod Updater. Go and format the iPod instead.
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    3. Go to Tab “Erase” , choose Volume Format as “MAC OS Extended (Journaled), and click Erase, again if fails, skip it and go to 4
    4. Same as step 3, but open the “Security Options....” and choose “Zero Out Data” before click Erase. It will take 1 to 2 hours to complete.
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    b. It is not a difficult issue for a Mac user to find a window base computer, for a PC user, if they can’t find any Mac user, they can go to a nearest Apple Shop for a favor.
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    You are prepared to buy a new one
    You can’t accept the re-sell value of your broken iPod
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    Hope you can help us!!
    <br>
    <br>
    Best Regards,
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    <br>
    Marcelo Oliveira
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    <br>
    Edited by: marcelojesus on Apr 21, 2010 1:05 AM
    Edited by: marcelojesus on Apr 21, 2010 1:06 AM
    Edited by: marcelojesus on Apr 21, 2010 1:07 AM
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