Generic delta extractor on view with ALE

Hello.
Extractor 0RT_WRF1_ATTR has type V and generic delta setting Numeric Pointer. Generic delta field is empty. Delta Process = A (ALE Update Pointer (Master Data)). ALE delta setting includes all fields of extractor structure. But changing one of these fields doesn't push new records into datasource.
Can you please explain, how generic delta works with ALE pointers аnd why no data is delivered?

CC,
Check on deletion data available in table(with any indicator updated) or not available in table.
If not available, you can not get delta through generic datasouce.
Hope it Helps
Srini

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Hi All,
I have a requirement to develop generic DELTA extractors. have extensively created generic ectractors using function module RSAX_BIW_GET_DATA_SIMPLE.
Can you please let me know how to create generic delta extractors with Steps.
Also How the tabel ROOSGENDLM us used in generic extractors..
Point will be assigned to useful answers..
Regards,
Bill

Hi Bill,
check this out: Generic Extraction via Function Module
You do not have to take care about that table, the service api will do that for your, you only need to take care about the information (delta date, timestamp or pointer) passed to the fm by the api and design your coding related to that information.
regards
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Define a range field like
ranges : l_r_aedat for <tabname>-aedat.
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For a certain requirement, I have to develop generic extractors which should be delta capable. But unfortunately the source tables donu2019t have a timestamp; hence I canu2019t create delta enabled generic extractors using timestamp. Moreover most of the tables are standard SAP tables, which are used across different modules so it is not possible to introduce timestamp in these tables.
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Hi Amit,
I haven't worked on SAP Transaction Banking but I hope you can get most of Business Partner data in standard extractors. Try to look for some.
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1. Use BTE
[How To Create GDS which uses Delta Queue|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/10b68b99-022e-2a10-999d-c4dc9ec24a59]
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[How to Create Generic Delta|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33]
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Hi Sirneni,
Is your Init load in BW successfull. Only after
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Hi Sri,
here some coding, I hope this helps!
first, get the delta-field
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Message was edited by: Siegfried Szameitat

Generic delta with function module

Hi Gurus,
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Jugal,
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> Hi Gurus,
>
> Is it possible to create a generic DataSource with
> delta support using function module following the
> queue delta mechanism (u can get some function moduel
> in MCEX function group, and check the outbound delta
> queue before and after update in transaction smq1.
> I can store the delta data using qRFC and collective
> update mechanism. but I don't know how to create a
> generic data with delta and how to attach a rfc
> destination (& logical system) to the data source.
> The Source system information is stored in the table
> "ROOSGEN". Is there any configuration setting
> required to do the same.
>
> Regards,
> Jugal

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How dose BW generic delta deal with the deleted record with generic delta mechanisim? Or how can I use generic delta mechanisim to realize that BW "delete" the deleted record of source system in ODS with delta extraction?
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Hi Uwe,
please have a look at https://weblogs.sdn.sap.com/pub/wlg/2415. [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken] It might help
kind regards
Siggi
PS: We already had almost the same question here today.

No records in delta extractor after change

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Last week I changed some records and then ran the transaction to fill the table and the program correctly filled the table and the extractor had the delta data.
I then extracted a delta init to an ODS in BW where I had to manually change the QM status of the load from yellow to green and got the status messages that the timestamp had changed from 0 to xxxxxx
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Hi,
We have a generic delta extractor that is based on ztable filled by a scheduled load program.
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If that is the case the extractor running off 'ztable' would not deliver any delta records as there is nothing to deliver.
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BR/
Mathew.

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And i promise to return and reward the answers.
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regards
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Thanks,
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Hello
See this blog which uses the same FM with explanation
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/09/29/generic-extraction-via-function-module
See this forum too
Generic Delta Function Module
Other docs
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/37/4f3ca8b672a34082ab3085d3c22145/content.htm
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