Getting applets to work in Firefox or IE7!!

Hi folks.
I've been reading Jason Hunters excellet book on Java Servlet Programming and become rather stuck on being able to get applets to work in a browser.
1) I managed to briefly get an Applet to work in IE7. Then things went astray (I say work, because applet initially displayed correctly graphically)
2) I introduced a bug and tried to redisplay. And haven't been able to recover.
3) When 2) occurred I swapped over to Firefox, since IE7 doesn't have a Java Console. (& theres no setting to enable it in security settings either)
4) Then Firefox prompted to download JRE... This was an odd one to me.... Since I already had a Java runtime...
I got this through downloading file java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-windows.exe
java -version yeilds:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Jeremy>java -version
java version "1.6.0_04"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_04-b12)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 10.0-b19, mixed mode)
C:\Documents and Settings\Jeremy>
Browser Versions
IE : is at version 7.0.5730.13
Firefox started out at 2.0.0.12... Now Firefox didn't seem to detect the JRE
5) It said additional plugins are required to display the media on this page...
6) I clicked the button to "Install missing plugins"
It then presents Plugin Finder Service with "Available Plugin Downloads" of Java Runtime Environment with checkbox ticked.
7) I clicked "next", at which point it completes saying
No plugins were installed
Java Runtime Environment failed with "Manual Install" button...
Clicking said button gave me executeable xpiinstall.exe from http://sdlc-esd.sun.com
8) When I ran this it
a) proceeded to cause Firefox to crash and a report was sent to Mozilla...
b) created a restore point called "Installed Java (TM) 6 update 5..
9)So now I went back to IE 7 having given up on Firefox...
Now it complained about missing classes which I felt sure were in a jar I'd deployed in Tomcat...
10) I tried to validate my assumptions by looking inside the Jar with Winzip...
Then I got a pop up with "Java Virtual Machine Launcher" in its title saying..
"Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from cos.jar"
At this point I realised 8) was the culprit after posting here and looking at possible causes for said pop-up.
[http://www.artima.com/forums/flat.jsp?forum=1&thread=61427&start=75&msRange=15]
None of solutions posted there seemed to apply to me
11) So now I restored to a restore point prior to 8) and though my problems were over
12) I've since upgraded to Firefox 2.0.0.14. Firefox pushed update to me. Also tried manually uninstalling and downloading file. Still saying missing plugin!!!
13) I've tried changing my tags in my html from
APPLET to OBJECT for IE7 or EMBED for Firefox..
I've validated my APPLET with APPLETVIEWER following advice posted here:
[http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/deployment/applet/index.html]
No tell tale signs appear in Tomcat Console or logs..
*The only thing that seems weird is codebase tag*
14) Book I've been reading mentioned putting both html code and applet class in root folder of tomcat
I've hosted both files here:
C:\Apps\apache-tomcat-6.0.16\webapps\ROOT
15) When I test with appletviewer from this folder and codebase set to / appletviewer doesn't find class.
I think I need to set this so when web browser runs it finds class. Maybe this is the route of my problems.
What's haunting me here though is placeholder for applet graphic worked at one point!
I don't recall fussing with codebase attribute of applet tag, yet suddenly things stopped working.
16) When I tried to verify with appletviewer I had to remove codebase attribute completely to get things to work.
Here are three versions of html file. Firefox version doesn't seem to be recognized by Appletviewer
Applet tag version: (BTW have tried with CODEBASE=/ too. This was how it appeared in book, Remember I'm hosting in Tomcat 6.0.16)
{code}
<HTML>
<HEAD><TITLE>Daytime Applet</TITLE></HEAD>
<BODY>
<CENTER><H1>Daytime Applet</H1></CENTER>
<CENTER><APPLET CODE="DaytimeApplet.class" WIDTH=300 HEIGHT=180></APPLET></CENTER>
</BODY></HTML>
{code}
IE Version only
{code}
<HTML>
<HEAD><TITLE>Daytime Applet</TITLE></HEAD>
<BODY>
<CENTER><H1>Daytime Applet</H1></CENTER>
<CENTER><object classid="clsid:8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93"
width="300" height="180">
<param name="code" value="DaytimeApplet.class"></object></CENTER>
</BODY></HTML>
{code}
Firefox version with JRE matching what java -version says precisely and using "jpi-version" so need for download instructions url 'should' be redundant..
{code}
<HTML>
<HEAD><TITLE>Daytime Applet</TITLE></HEAD>
<BODY>
<CENTER><H1>Daytime Applet</H1></CENTER>
<CENTER>
<embed code="DaytimeApplet.class"
width="300" height="180"
type="application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.6.0_04"/>
</CENTER>
</BODY></HTML>
{code}
I don't want to be staring at a placeholder in a Web Browser.
I want to GUI as it appears in AppletViewer and how it once had it working in IE7!
You wouldn' t think that was to much to ask for would you! Sorry for length of this post.
Any clues as to where to go next would be greatly appreciated as I'm pulling hairs out with frustration at the moment...
A few of footnotes:
1) I've relaxed my security zone settings for intranet, added localhost to local intranet sites..
2) I've tried deleting all temporay files in IE7 even to point of resetting to install setup thinking there may be some sort of caching issue with bad applet... No luck
3) I can still get Glassfish server to login to Admin Console.
So the integrity of my pc should me intact based on the shenanigans of point 11. Restoring to get rid of second JRE

paulcw wrote:
I'm not sure what to tell you. I've never had any trouble installing the JRE and getting applets to work. Maybe it's an IE7 thing. Firefox is usually easier to configure.
Anyway, it sounds like something that you need to be sitting at your computer to fix, so I don't know how useful a forum will be. It might be best just to ask a coworker with a lot of arcane knowledge to take a look at it.1) Unfortunately I'm learning from home and don't have the luxury of asking a co-worker. Have fired off email to one of folks at Sun..
In my efforts to try and track down the problem yesterday, Google uncovered some interesting findings regarding Caching of Applets. Thought I'd share this:
2) [http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t603400-ltobjectgt-tag-and-applet-caching.html]
There is an interesting post some way down posted by james.a.cleland
Quote:
"My solution is to x-c in the Java console to clear
this cache. This works without unloading the JVM and while the applet
is running. It looks like the browser isn't caching any applets. At
least my browser cache doesn't contain any, although I do regularly
use half a dozen, so it must be the JRE. Anyway, clearing through the
console solves my problem".
I can't access Java Console in IE7 as you know...
3) There is always another way to skin a cat regarding clearing cache.
Found this here:
[http://www.aurigma.com/Support/DocViewer/28/UpdatingImageUploaderonClientSide.htm.aspx]
Search for Java section
Quote:
"Java applets are stored in the cache that is accessible through the Java control panel. Follow these steps to do it:
Open Java Plug-in Control Panel. Depending on the platform, it can be found in different locations:
Windows: Control Panel -> Java Plug-in
Click the Cache tab.
Click Clear to clear all cached applets."
*Problem is that there is no Java Plug-In within Control panel. Mentioned this with Coffee Cup reference above..*
4) Also saw this article on *"How to troubleshoot Java applet and component download problems"* at:
[http://support.microsoft.com/kb/241111]
Java console or output log section:
Javalog.txt in the windows\java or winnt\java directory
windows\java contains
- classes
- trustdb
No such file: classes & trustdb are empty folders.
5) I have same problem mentioned here:
[http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=915520&SiteID=1]
Quote:
"I cannot get java applets to display on any web pages - instead this message appears:
alt="Your browser understands the <APPLET> tag but isn't running the applet, for some reason." Your browser is completely ignoring the <APPLET> tag! "
Yep. That's my predicament.
BTW: Get this by doing test here:
[http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/1.5.0/demos/applets/Clock/example1.html]
6) Sun's Verify Installation fails on me too:
[http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp]
7) I'm interested in knowing how IE7 caches the applets too. Does it store some sort of class-id in the registry? (I'm on XP SP2)
8) Is there an installation integrity verifier for Sun? Something that verifies the integrity against a baseline install and reports anomalies.Like I mentioned earlier I've got java_app_platform_sdk-5_04-windows.exe file installed. Not the latest incarnation, but the one immediately before. With SE 1.6.0_04-b12 built built into it

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