Good Consumer HD/DVD (tapeless) cam corder - trips and all that - non 3CCD!

The reason I put NON 3CCD is that I know there are pretty good consumer camera's out there that are 3CCD.
Am looking for something on a budget, but something tapeless (quick access on MAC) with FCP and or iMovie, but still gives a quality picture.
Some people swear by the mini tape panasonic? That is listed on the Apple website but I don't want to wait for sequential input and want the luxury of going to any scene on the camera before committing to computer.
At the same time, since I am looking for a decent camera with a budget, will it give a good picture compared to a tape based camera if its lower (or same) price as tapeless cam corder?
• Does this post (pricing vs quality) make sense?
In other words, one would think the tape based would be cheaper and have a better picture. Just wondering if this is not true and you can get a similar picture at a good price with a tapeless, HD or (hard drive) or DVD recorder.
Please advise and speculation on price is okay.

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