Grouped Character Styles -

Can I make a group of character styles that is not only available when I create a new doc, but will also be open every time I open any document? I have several hundred files to tend to and am wondering if there is a way to have it handy instead of loading it from a document every time.

KSCoastal wrote:
If I am to create a new doc, the character group/style is there as it should be, but if I open a doc, it is not and I have to load it. I have so many files to open that I don't want to have to open the style time and time again.
To load properties from one file to many, you can use a book file and the synchronize feature. You do need to be sure that the properties you'll inject from the Style Source file won't change properties with matching names in the target files. Here's how:
* Create a book file with File > New > Book
It doesn't matter if you'll need to use the files in a book later, or if some of them already belong to different books.
* Create or open the file that has all the properties - paragraph styles, character styles, object styles, master pages, etc - whatever properties that you want to inject into target files.
* Add this file to the book file
* Add all the target files to the book file - you can drag them from the desktop, Mac Finder, Windows Explorer, or by using the "+" button in the book window and selecting all at once, and clicking the Open or Ok or Add button in the Add Documents dialog box.
* To open all the files in the book at once, select them all in the book window, then double click quickly on the selection. It may appear that you've deselected all but the file you've double clicked, but you'll see the files in the book panel display the opened-book icon. You may also see missing font and perhaps other alerts during the opening process.
NOTE: It's important to open all the files before synchronizing them, in case you discover that something's gone wrong and you need to undo the process. If you want to undo the synchronization for any changed files before saving, make the file active, and use File > Revert.
NOTE: Before you synchronize files, click Synchronize Options in the Book panel menu, and choose exactly which properties you want to propagate from the style source to the target files. There are many choices, so check each one. You'll really need a well-prepared style source file to get this all right. Clear the check box of any property you want unchanged.
* Select a file to be the file source for synchronizing some or all files in the book, by clicking on the box just to the left of the file file you want to be the style source. A tool tip should appear when you hover your pointer over the box, and when you click, an icon will appear (it may be too small to see easily; it represents a single file propagating its properties to multiple files.)
* Select one or more file names in the book panel list to be the targets of the synchronization operation. If you want to synchronize all the files to the style source, either select all the file names, or click in the blank space below the name list (yes, it's totally counter-intuitive.)
* Verify that the Synchronize Options properties are the ones you want.
* Verify that the correct target files are selected, or that no file in the book panel is selected (for all files).
* In the Book panel menu, click Synchronize Selected Documents.
* Check through all the target files to verify that they're correct.
* Use File > Revert with any document active to undo its synchronization.
* Save the changed target files to preserve the changes. There's no "save all selected files" feature in InDesign, but you can use this operating-system trick to speed things up:
- Option+Click (Mac) or Alt+Click (Windows) the close button of one open file; an alert appears. Choose Save, Don't Save, or Cancel.
EDIT:
NOTE: You can close the book without saving if you don't need it again, or you can save it. Synchronizing isn't supposed to change file numbering, but adding the files to a book will change their numbering. You may need to reset the numbering properties of files when you open them for use alone, or in other books.
END EDIT
You're done!
HTH
Regards,
Peter
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