GX720 swap Fn/Ctrl keys?

I have MSI GX720 with Vista x64. I would like to swap my fn/ctrl keys. How shoul I do it?
(I would not like to break a guarantee because its new)
PS.: I have SCM installed and when I press Turbo button, pc get stucked. Should I claim my notebook?

Quote from: Svet on 13-September-09, 03:04:41
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=124436.0
I cant use it because of x64 Vista OS :(

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Hi Svet,
I've flashed my laptop with your files, powered down my laptop, loaded the BIOS defaults and the swap works. Thanks!
However, my laptop is experiencing a side effect.
When I plug in a USB external harddisk, I hear a sound prompt and the "Safely Remove Hardware" indicates an exteral drive but thats it. The Autorun dialog doesn't show up and the disk is not visible under "My Computer". I've tried different external harddisks and a different USB port on the laptop but it still doesnt work. A smaller USB thumbdrive works however (as does my USB mouse). Is there an issue with the electrical output of the USB ports i.e. its being reduced to a point where larger devices cannot be recognized?
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However, my laptop is experiencing a side effect.
When I plug in a USB external harddisk, I hear a sound prompt and the "Safely Remove Hardware" indicates an exteral drive but thats it. The Autorun dialog doesn't show up and the disk is not visible under "My Computer". I've tried different external harddisks and a different USB port on the laptop but it still doesnt work. A smaller USB thumbdrive works however (as does my USB mouse). Is there an issue with the electrical output of the USB ports i.e. its being reduced to a point where larger devices cannot be recognized?
Any advice?
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Is there an issue with the electrical output of the USB ports i.e. its being reduced to a point where larger devices cannot be recognized?
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When I plug in a USB external harddisk, I hear a sound prompt and the "Safely Remove Hardware" indicates an exteral drive but thats it. The Autorun dialog doesn't show up and the disk is not visible under "My Computer". I've tried different external harddisks and a different USB port on the laptop but it still doesnt work. A smaller USB thumbdrive works however (as does my USB mouse).
Can the BIOS detect the drive? Could be OS related.
Do you have some sort of USB adaptor used?
Check it in "disk management" from control panel, see if its listed there.
Also does they are recognized when you put them in another machine?
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http://img858.imageshack.us/i/dscf4542.jpg/
http://img29.imageshack.us/i/dscf4543k.jpg/
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