GX740 (ms-1727) Blackscreen
Hi everyone
I hope someone here can really help me with my msi GX740, which won't boot up anymore and only shows a blackscreen when you hit the startbutton.
The powerLED (the blue moon) turns on, but nothing more. No POST screen, no harddisk activity, no beeps, just the fan spinning around.
As a little information, I've probably done some bullsh*t before the issue occurred
I flashed a unlocked BIOS to check if there are additional settings to get some RAM working, which I got from a friend.
The BIOS-flash was SUCCESSFUL and the system worked well with the new BIOS (even tough i forgot the EC-reset).
Then I tried to change some settings (I think it was someting with autoconfigure hardware) in the BIOS and BAM! It didn't start again.
So I thought, lets reset the settings with a CMOS-and EC-reset, nothing.
Replacing the RAM and using just one slot changed nothing.
I tried the emergency BIOS recovery, like here -> forum-en.msi.com/?topic=119375.0 but no success. (Sry I'm not allowed to post an external? link)
Something I noticed before: on the RAM it's written 1333mhz, but Memtest+86 or CPU-Z told me it's running on 1066mhz. So I organised some RAM with 1066mhz and tested it, but again nothing.
In another forum I found a guy with similar issues and he fixed it when he inserted "wrong" RAM, booted into BIOS and restored the default settings. But I have no further information. Is it worth givin it a try and buy some 1600mhz RAM to test?
Is it possible that the mainboard is broken and if, what exactly and how?
I would really appreciate it when someone could help me and sorry if there are language mistakes.
Some additional infromation , which could be useful:
Device: msi GX740
Board: ms-1727
CPU: 1st gen i5-430m
GPU: ATI Mobility Radeon 5870m
RAM: 2x 2GB DDR3 1333mhz (originally)
kind regards and thanks in advance
Patrik
Well, it was not me, who sold my mainboard on ebay
My solution was: A friend of mine had the exact same laptop with a broken screen but a working motherboard. So we took his motherboard and put it in my "case".
But I never understood what's wrong with my motherboard. We even tried to switch all of the components (RAM, CPU, GPU) but nothing...
The difference to you is, my mobo did not turn off by itself. The fan was spinning chilly, the powerLED was on but the screen stayed blank and nothing else happened. No difference between battery/plugged in.
My device never started at all with the graphics (and RAM) removed, and showed similar symptoms to yours. So maybe you just have to install your graphics card.
Additionally, I would try to check all of your components to see if they are fitted correctly (especially the RAM). You can try to switch the RAM to see if it's faulty, or even when possible the GPU and/or CPU.
An EC-Reset also may help you. To perform this follow these steps: (from https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=112416.0 )
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1. Turn notebook OFF with button, hold 4 seconds.
2. Remove recharge plug
3. Remove battery
4. Leave it like this for about 5 minutes.
5. Put everything back and power the laptop again.
If nothing helps, you can try to unplug the CMOS-Battery too while doing an EC-Reset, but I have no idea, if this will change anything.
Good luck
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CPU:
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RAM:
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VGA:
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0 1 PMBR
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34 6
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409640 116448792 2 GPT part - 48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC
116858432 1269536 3 GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC
118127968 858645167
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976773167 1 Sec GPT header
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0 1 MBR
1 1 Pri GPT header
2 32 Pri GPT table
34 6
40 409600 1 GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B
409640 2008
411648 249657344 2 GPT part - EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7
250068992 655
250069647 32 Sec GPT table
250069679 1 Sec GPT header
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Disk: /dev/disk0 geometry: 60801/255/63 [976773168 sectors]
Signature: 0xAA55
Starting Ending
#: id cyl hd sec - cyl hd sec [ start - size]
1: EE 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 1 - 976773167] <Unknown ID>
2: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused
3: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused
4: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused
sudo fdisk /dev/disk1
Disk: /dev/disk1 geometry: 15566/255/63 [250069680 sectors]
Signature: 0xAA55
Starting Ending
#: id cyl hd sec - cyl hd sec [ start - size]
1: EE 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 1 - 409639] <Unknown ID>
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3: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused
4: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused
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According to iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2011) - Technical Specifications, there is an option to
Storage1
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2.7 GHz
1TB (7200 rpm) hard drive
Configurable to 2TB hard drive or 256GB solid-state second drive, only at the Apple Online Store.
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Hello All,
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So I still have the problem.
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This problem seems to be similar to the apple problem with their iMac's TS3173, but I am dumbfounded as to why I have this problem. I don't think anyone else out there with a MacBookPro5,1 has this problem.
I think If I had a solution as in TS3173 for the MacBookPro5,1 it would solve my case. Really I need the nVidia drivers for the GeForce 9400M, I tried getting these from the Boot Camp drivers but these are in exe form which would not be detected by the Windows 7 installer.
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Hello,
I'm trying to install Windows 7 Home Premium (64bit) on my iMac (late 2009) and unable to get past the dread blackscreen that is posted on the Apple Support help pages (http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3173).
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I assume it's because it is unable to find the drivers on the USB key and unsure what else to do. Does it make a difference which USB port I use? Also, the USB drive is "old" (5 yrs +). Perhaps that's an issue?
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Hi Svet,
i have the same problem as the other guy, i have bought a Samsung 830 SSD for my MS 1727 Barebone notebook.
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The MSIHQ Flashing Tool Informations:
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Would you please so kind and make a full functional bios for my notebook?
Is it even possible? I would like to set the old hdd into my DVD slot with a DVD/HDD case replacement.
I hope that the bios will provide this functionality.
Which tool should i use to flash my bios and backup the original?
I will donate if you could make this possible!
Hope to hear you soon!
Best regards,
munitioQuote from: Svet on 09-September-12, 06:52:59
Yes that's suppose to be
ah, i see
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