Hawa article (trading Goods) to be Splitted to ROH articles

Hi ,
Pls help me on the below case scenario :
In our Business at present we are having two ROH articles which are :
1. Empty packet.
2. 5 kg Sugar.
These ROH's are further used as Bill of materials in Production order wherein
we put the 5kg sugar in the Empty packet, which then forms a Trading goods article.
While transportation of these trading goods from our warehouse to store, during
loading and unloading of goods the packets are damaged which are then considered
as ROH articles. We are then facing a challenge to split the Trading goods article(Hawa)
to ROH article.
Kindly let me know the process how to split the Trading goods article(Hawa) to ROH article.
Thanks & Regards,
Gurpreet Singh Saini.

Hi,
You can try doing a manual transfer posting from HAWA material to your ROH material by MB1B.
Regards
Trinanjan

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