Help with a Spry Menu Bar

I'm having trouble with a Spry Menu Bar not displaying
correctly in Internet Explorer, while it displays fine in every
other browser I have available. I've done some searching on these
boards, but the queries I've found with the same type of problem
each has a knowledgeable person editing the code for the
poster...and I can't seem to make heads or tails of it.
So, below is my link. What you'll see if viewed in Explorer
is that the "Clinics" listing and the "Services & Specialties"
listing are each on the same horizontal line, rather than vertical
like the rest of the menu. If anyone can help me in correcting this
problem, I'd be very appreciative.
Thanks in advance.
http://www.chambershospital.com/temp/about.html

Hello,
You might try removing all of the <div> tags you
inserted in the menu.
This can happen if you select text in design view and use the
"align" icons
in the properties window instead of using CSS to align
things.
For example:
<li>
<div align="left"><<****REMOVE THIS
<a href="clinics.html"
class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">Clinics</a>
<ul>
<li><a href="clinic.html">Chambers
Clinic</a></li>
<li><a href="clinic7.html">Scenic 7
Clinic</a></li>
</ul>
</div><<*** REMOVE THIS
</li>
So it looks like this:
<li><a href="clinics.html"
class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">Clinics</a>
<ul>
<li><a href="clinic.html">Chambers
Clinic</a></li>
<li><a href="clinic7.html">Scenic 7
Clinic</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
Repeat for all the other <div align="left"> and
</div> tags in the menu.
Take care,
Tim
"Zim74" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:fv4vc0$r0t$[email protected]..
> I'm having trouble with a Spry Menu Bar not displaying
correctly in
> Internet
> Explorer, while it displays fine in every other browser
I have available.
> I've
> done some searching on these boards, but the queries
I've found with the
> same
> type of problem each has a knowledgeable person editing
the code for the
> poster...and I can't seem to make heads or tails of it.
>
> So, below is my link. What you'll see if viewed in
Explorer is that the
> "Clinics" listing and the "Services & Specialties"
listing are each on the
> same
> horizontal line, rather than vertical like the rest of
the menu. If
> anyone can
> help me in correcting this problem, I'd be very
appreciative.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
http://www.chambershospital.com/temp/about.html
>
>

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              font-weight: bold;
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              font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    .Newwaybigletter {          font: normal 18px Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
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              font-weight: normal;
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