Hi, 3 party returns

hi,
sap gurus,
how do we handle third party returns
thnaxs,
balaji.t
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Hi,
Its very common scnario which every company demanding where you have third party sales then returns also shoudl be required but in SAP there is standar process provided and it all depends on how we map the process.
Here two things, once if the return happen from customer where you want to return the material either to company or vendor.
If like to return to company with no material replacement then the process as below-
1. Create Return Order wrf to outgoing billing document.
2. Create Return Delivery wrf to return order
3. Create Credit Memo wrf to return order.
4. If the material is excisable then can take the credit for the same.
If like to return to company with material replacement then the process as below-
1. Create Return Order wrf to outgoing billing document.
2. Create Return Delivery wrf to return order
3. If the material is excisable then can take the credit for the same.
4. Create Sales Order wrf to Return Order or without reference
5. Create Outgoing Delivery
6. Create Perform Invoice
7. Create Excise Invoice
If like to return to vendor with material replacement then the process as below-
There is no transaction on the your SAP system
Regards
Goutham

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Please check this extract from the sap library :
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Please check this extract from the sap library :
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
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Third party returns from customer to vendor (Urgent)

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We have an urgent requirement regarding an issue with third party returns from customer.
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1. If delivery of goods is the only issue then you can ask customer to make invoice with Invoice to your company address and Delivery address as the vendor address. Practically it is possible.
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Hi
Officially the return process is not supported by standard SAP ERP system for the third-party process.This functionality was never designed and is not supported.
The note 751609 is the official statement of SAP to this problem.
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For more details refer the below link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/70/a7853478616434e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
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In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. The standard sales order automatically creates a purchase requisition for the materials to be delivered by the third-party vendor.
In this scenario, the vendor sends a shipping notification. The incoming invoice from the vendor updates the billing quantity, so that the customer-billing document is only possible after entering the invoice from the vendor.
<b>If the customer does not accept</b> the delivered goods from the third party vendor, the customer disposes of the goods. A credit memo is issued to the customer reversing the revenue and cost of goods sold. Then a MM credit memo is created for the third party vendor. A statistical goods receipt reversal is performed for the goods in order to close out the original purchase order. The vendor credit memo may initially be blocked for payment, if previous agreement for this with vendor exists.
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As already posted in SDN:
Third Party Return Process
Please check this extract from the sap library :
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
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Third Party Return Process
Please check this extract from the sap library :
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
Process Flow
Create a billing documente with billing type Third-party credit memo (for further information, see the section Creating a billing document in the Billing document). Enter the third-party order as a document still to be processed. The quantities are automatically removed from the invoice.
The above is the process for giving a credit memo which can be adapted for return goods.
Regards,
Rajesh Banka
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Explain process andsteps involved in returns third party order processing?

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[Re: Return Of goods in Third Party Process|Re: Return Of goods in Third Party Process]
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1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing      *--
In Details:----
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