Homogeneous Database copy without tape restoration

Hi all,
I have AIX 5.3 servers with Oracle as databse. I am supposed to do database copy on a new server from an already existing server. However there ios no tape connectivity to that server. But both the servers are on same SAN. How is it possible to do database copy. Both would be same OS and same Database. Please tell me what are the steps to be taken for database copy.
Regards,
Priya

Hi,
Do the following:
1. Take Latest Offline/Online Oracle DB Backup of that Source System, from which you want to copy DB.
2. Copy that Offline/Online Oracle DB Backup Fille and Backup log file (*.anf) of that Source System to the Target System, on its free available local disk space.
3. Perform Homogeneous System Copy using Oracle DB Restore method:
     3.1 Restore Target Oracle DB using that Source Oracle DB with the help of BRRESTORE command.
     3.2 Backup Control Files from Source System and Change it according to the Target System directory structure before applying to to Target System.
     3.3 Perform Recovery using available Offline redo-log files (if you have restored Online Backup)
All above mentioned steps are well described in this useful document "[Homogeneous System Copy using Online/Offline Database Backup|http://www.basisconsultant.com/component/remository/Sytem-Copy-Guides/Homogeneous-System-Copy-using-OnlineandOffline-Backup/]" with proper understanding. Download it with simple registration and Please read it carefully and follow the steps mentioned in that guide.
Upon error, post your message.
Regards,
Bhavik G. Shroff

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Hi,
step 9 is wrong ;-(((
old:
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