How do I fix colour picker to work across different colour-managed monitors?

Hey everyone!
I'm assuming this problem I'm having stems from having colour-calibrated monitors, but let me know if I'm wrong!
To preface, this is the setup I have:
Windows 7
3 monitors as follows, all have individual colour profiles calibrated using the Spyder 3
Cintiq 12WX
Dell U2410
Dell 2409WFP
Photoshop CS6 - Proofed with Monitor RGB, and tested with colour-managed and non-colour-managed documents
I usually do most of my work on the Cintiq 12WX, but pull the photoshop window to my main monitor to do large previews and some corrections. I noticed that the colour picker wouldn't pick colours consistently depending on the monitor the Photoshop window is on.
Here are some video examples:
This is how the colour picker works on my Dell U2410: http://screencast.com/t/lVevxk5Ihk
This is how it works on my Cintiq 12WX: http://screencast.com/t/tdREx4Xyhw9
Main Question
I know the Cintiq's video capture makes the picture look more saturated than the Dell's, but it actually looks fine physically, which is okay. But notice how the Cintiq's colour picker doesn't pick a matching colour. It was actually happening the opposite way for a while (Dell was off, Cintiq was fine), but it magically swapped while I was trying to figure out what was going on. Anyone know what's going on, and how I might fix it?
Thanks for *any* help!
Semi-related Question regarding Colour Management
Colour management has always been the elephant-in-the-room for me when I first tried to calibrate my monitors with a Spyder colourimeter years ago. My monitors looked great, but Photoshop's colours became unpredictable and I decided to abandon the idea of calibrating my monitors for years until recently. I decided to give it another chance and follow some tutorials and articles in an attempt to keep my colours consistent across Photoshop and web browsers, at least. I've been proofing against monitor colour  and exporting for web without an attached profile to keep pictures looking good on web browsers. However, pictures exported as such will look horrible when uploaded to Facebook. Uploading pictures with an attached colour profile makes it look good on Facebook. This has forced me to export 2 versions of a picture, one with an attached colour profile and one without, each time I want to share it across different platform. Is there no way to fix this issue?
Pictures viewed in Windows Photo Viewer are also off-colour, but I think that's because it's not colour managed... but that's a lesser concern.

I think I've figured out the colour management stuff in the secondary question, but the weird eyedropper issue is still happening. Could just be a quirk from working on things across multiple monitors, but I'm hoping someone might know if this is a bug/artifact.
Going to lay out what I inferred from my experiments regarding colour management in case other noobs like me run into the same frustrations as I did. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong - the following are all based on observation.
General Explanation
A major source of my problems stem from my erroneous assumption that all browsers will use sRGB when rendering images. Apparently, most popular browsers today are colour-managed, and will use an image's embedded colour profile if it exists, and the monitor's colour profile if it doesn't. This was all well and good before I calibrated my monitors, because the profile attached to them by default were either sRGB or a monitor default that's close to it. While you can never guarantee consistency on other people's monitors, you can catch most cases by embedding a colour profile - even if it is sRGB. This forces colour-managed browsers to use sRGB to render your image, while non-colour-managed browsers will simply default to sRGB. sRGB seems to be the profile used by Windows Photo Viewer too, so images saved in other wider gamut colour spaces will look relatively drab when viewed in WPV versus a colour-managed browser.
Another key to figuring all this out was understanding how Profile Assignment and Conversion work, and the somewhat-related soft-proofing feature. Under Edit, you are given the option to either assign a colour profile to the image, or convert the image to another colour profile. Converting an image to a colour profile will replace the colour profile and perform colour compensations so that the image will look as physically close to the original as possible. Assigning a profile only replaces the colour profile but performs no compensations. The latter is simulated when soft-proofing (View > Proof Colors or ctrl/cmd-Y). I had followed bad advice and made the mistake of setting up my proofing to Monitor Color because this made images edited in Photoshop look identical when the same image is viewed in the browser, which was rendering my images with the Monitor's colour profile, which in turn stemmed from yet another bad advice I got against embedding profiles .  This should formally answer Lundberg's bewilderment over my mention of soft-proofing against Monitor Colour.
Conclusion and Typical Workflow (aka TL;DR)
To begin, these are the settings I use:
Color Settings: I leave it default at North American General Purpose 2, but probably switch from sRGB to AdobeRGB or  ProPhoto RGB so I can play in a wider gamut.
Proof Setup: I don't really care about this anymore because I do not soft-proof (ctrl/cmd-Y) in this new workflow.
Let's assume that I have a bunch of photographs I want to post online. RAWs usually come down in the AdobeRGB colour space - a nice, wide gamut that I'll keep while editing. Once I've made my edits, I save the source PSD to prep for export for web.
To export to web, I first Convert to the sRGB profile by going to Edit > Convert to Profile. I select sRGB as the destination space, and change the Intent to either Perceptual or Relative Colorimetric, depending on what looks best to me. This will convert the image to the sRGB colour space while trying to keep the colours as close to the original as possible, although some shift may occur to compensate for the narrower gamut. Next, go to Save for Web. The settings you'll use:
Embed Color Profile CHECKED
Convert to sRGB UNCHECKED (really doesn't matter since you're already in the sRGB colour space)
and Preview set to Internet Standard RGB (this is of no consequence - but it will give a preview of what the image will look like in the sRGB space)
That's it! While there might be a slight shift in colour when you converted from AdobeRGB to sRGB, everything from then on should stay consistent from Photoshop to the browser
Edit: Of course, if you'd like people to view your photos in glorious wide gamut in their colour-managed browsers, you can skip the conversion to sRGB and keep them in AdobeRGB. When Saving for Web, simply remember to Embed the Color Profile, DO NOT convert to sRGB, and set Preview to "Use Document Profile" to see what the image would look like when drawn with the embedded color profile

Similar Messages

  • I just downloaded the new version of Firefox (ver 4). Now when I open Firefox I get the address bar but the information part of my screen is blank. This happens on all web sites. How do I fix this? IE works fine.

    I just downloaded the new version of Firefox (ver 4). Now when I open Firefox I get the address bar but the information part of my screen is blank. This happens on all web sites. How do I fix this? IE works fine.

    Did you check your security software (firewall)?
    A possible cause is security software (firewall) that blocks or restricts Firefox or the plugin-container process without informing you, possibly after detecting changes (update) to the Firefox program.
    Remove all rules for Firefox from the permissions list in the firewall and let your firewall ask again for permission to get full unrestricted access to internet for Firefox and the plugin-container process.
    See:
    * [[Server not found]]
    * [[Firewalls]]

  • ATTENTION: Please fix the above failed worker(s) so the manager can continu

    i am applying a patch p11067286_R12.AP.B_R12_GENERIC.zip , i am facing the error
    ATTENTION: Please fix the above failed worker(s) so the manager can continue
    i restart all the workers with adctrl but same problem .
    please need urgent help

    user13376823 wrote:
    Dear Hussein,
    i am finding these errors in one log file
    AD Worker warning:
    Product Data File
    /opt/oracle/apps/apps_st/appl/admin/jtsprod.txt
    does not exist for product "jts".
    This product is registered in the database but the
    above file does not exist in APPL_TOP. The product
    will be ignored without error.Hi;
    This is ignorable error, please check workerlog file last 50 lines, you should see something like below:
    FAILED: file adorgcnv.pls on worker 1 for product ad username APPLSYS.
    FAILED: file adorgcnv.pls on worker 2 for product ad username APPLSYS.
    FAILED: file adorgcnv.pls on worker 3 for product ad username APPLSYS.
    FAILED: file adorgcnv.pls on worker 4 for product ad username APPLSYS.
    Done reading jobs from FND_INSTALL_PROCESSES table ...
    Telling workers to read 'todo' restart file.
    Done.
    ATTENTION: All workers either have failed or are waiting:
    FAILED: file adorgcnv.pls on worker 1.
    FAILED: file adorgcnv.pls on worker 2.
    FAILED: file adorgcnv.pls on worker 3.
    FAILED: file adorgcnv.pls on worker 4.
    ATTENTION: Please fix the above failed worker(s) so the manager can continue
    Regard
    Helios

  • How do I activate colour management in Flash CS4?

    I am struggling to find clear guidance on how to switch on colour management in Flash CS4. My attempts to search online have tended to give me far too many irrelevent results and it is not even mentioned in the index of my 700 page Flash CS4 textbook.
    Some guidance would be appreciated.
    David

    I've found what appears to be an answer to my own question at the following link,
    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/quickstart/color_correction_as3/
    The only problem is that it is an Actionscript 3.0 solution. Unfortunately, this is of limited use to me as most of my current Flash apps are image galleries purchased from activeden.net, all of which are written in AS2.
    Am I right in thinking that there is no way of mixing AS2 and AS3 code in the same FLA?
    David

  • Can anyone recommend a decent, totally free sound equalizer app or program to work across different applications on my Mac?

    Can anyone recommend a decent, totally free sound equalizer app or program to work across different applications on my Mac?
    I am running OS 10.9.2.
    Thanks!

    NeoOffice was a OS X adaptation of OpenOffice because there wasn't a OS X version when the "Mac" came back from the dead basically.
    Sun which owned OpenOffice, was bought by Oracle, which all the developers left finding out Oracle wasn't going to support OpenOffice anymore.
    The developers of OpenOffice went and formed LibreOffice, which got some serious cash donations and now is the new fork of OpenOffice.
    So if you have files in NeoOffice, OpenOffice or Microsoft Office, they will work just fine in LibreOffice.
    LibreOffice is getitng all the attention now that's it's truly "free" and many more developers worldwide are looking at the code and contributing to it.
    So LibreOffice is what you need. It's also cross platform, Linux, OS X or Windows. AND free. (but you should contribute funds)
    http://www.libreoffice.org/

  • The 'Yellow' Middle Round Button on the Upper Left Side of the Screen is no longer 'Yellow' and Nothing Happens when I pick it. How do I fix this so it works?

    All three buttons used to have a color associated with them. Red (furthest left), Yellow (middle) and Green (right). Red shut down Firefox, Yellow hid Firefox from the screen and Green refreshed or enlarged the screen. Not only is the middle button no longer yellow, but when I pick it nothing happens. This started recently. How do I fix this?

    Try to remove the Firefox plist file (org.mozilla.firefox.plist).
    *http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20060606082246983 How .plist files become corrupt and troubleshooting the results
    Go to "~/Library/Preferences" and remove the plist file for Firefox (org.mozilla.firefox.plist)
    See also:
    *http://thexlab.com/faqs/repairprocess.html

  • NL925: How do I fix my suddenly-stoped -working mi...

    Hi everyone
    I have been using my phone for more than 3 months now and today I took a video. To my surprise, there was no audio recorded. I tried using the Voice command (Long press Windows key) and it does not pick up my voice. I tried the voice option in the search, and I got the same result - no audio being detected.
    When I call people, they could hear me. When I turn to speakerphone, that's when it stops working as well.
    How do I fix this?
    Thanks.
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    Try soft resetting your phone by pressing volume down + lock key for about 10-15 seconds, until your phone vibrates and release the buttons, this will reboot your phone.
    If this doesn't fix the problem, there may be a hardware failure, which means you may need to visit a nokia care center.
    The silence will fall

  • How do u fix the keyboard not working issue on the new ios7

    how do u fix the issue of the keyboard not working on the ios 7 OS? i experieced it on my MacBook Pro recently.

    Briss wrote:
    how do u fix the issue of the keyboard not working on the ios 7 OS?
    iOS 7 is not a MBP OS.
    i experieced it on my MacBook Pro recently.
    Exactly what did you experience?
    Ciao.

  • How to mimic non colour managed environment in CS6

    Can anyone tell me please if it is possible to see in Photoshop what an image will look like when it is out in the un-colour managed world?.I can see how you can do it if you are saving for web because you can preview it in a browser, but is it possible to do this with TIFs and PSDss please?
    I have a wide colour gamut display and even with it set to sRGB colour mode emulation, sRGB tagged images that look correctly saturated in Photoshop look oversaturated once out of it and in an uncolour managed environment - particularly the reds. If I can replicate this environment in PS I can edit the colours to make them more neutral looking.
    Thanks.

    I think you are very wise t have x2 sRGB displays.  If a large sRGB display had been available I would have bought it.
    Could you bear to help me with another - display issue,please?
    As part of the work I do I have to make screen recordings of images being produced for the magazine.  I use Camtasia for this and they insist on a 1024x768 resolution.  This has been no problem in the past with my standard sRGB display (NEC 2490/2) because the aspect ratio was right for it.
    The aspect ratio was not right for the Spectraview display (2560x1440) so I used the original 2490 also attached to my graphics card to make the recordings at 1024x768.
    Now, something has changed in the arrangements and when I set the 1920x1200 display to 1024x768 the image stretches as if it were in the wide display.  I am defeated as to why the standard display can no longer show 1024x768 at the correct aspect ratio.
    I am not aware of having changed any W7 settings - both displays are recognised. Though I do notice that under the "advanced settings for the W7 resolution window, and under the "Monitor" tab, the 2490 is not available - only the wider display (271) - here is an image that shows this:
    When you open the "Colour Management" tab all the resolutions are available for  the 2490/2 but as I said, when you select the 1024x768, it appears as it would (and does) on the wider display.
    Can you suggest what I've done wrong and how I might fix this, please.
    Thanks.

  • How can I get saddle stitch to work across several chapters in the book panel?

    I have been able to get saddle stitching to work perfectly if I print from a single InDesign document by going to “Print Booklet”. The problem I am having is that I can’t get it to work across several documents that are from the same book. The position of the pages is only correct from within the chapter that is selected. In other words it will put the first and last page number from the chapter on the same page but only from within that chapter not the whole book. The way saddle stitching should work is to have the first page of the book and the last page of the book on the same piece of paper. How can I get that to work? I have been flipping through books and the internet for quite some time and I can't find the answer to this.
    Your help is much appreciated. I have been working on this book for a long time (my first one) and I am looking forward to finally getting this completed!

    For some reason Adobe never saw it fit to allow Print Booklet to work from the Book Panel!
    Weird
    Workaround -
    Export the Whole Book to a PDF
    Create a new document of the same dimensions
    Look up Zanelli Multi Page Import for InDesign
    http://indesignsecrets.com/placing-all-the-pages-of-a-pdf-inside-indesign.php
    Then Print Booklet from the New Document.
    The important thing to remember is that InDesign is a page layout tool. Yes it can allow you output single documents in a booklet it's a nice feature.
    Ultimately though impositions should be done by printers themselves using specialised Imposition Software.
    If you need to do this quite often then I think you should look into Quite Imposing plugin for Acrobat.

  • How to pass values from single Databank file across different scripts?

    Hi Guys,
    I have a question regarding using single databank file across different scripts.
    Lets say there 5 web service scripts and these are very generic scripts where the input/request xml schema of each script is parameterized without having any databank as script asset.
    These 5 web service scripts are like library functions and so we dont want to attach any databank as script asset.
    However I have a driver script to call all of these 5 library scripts and now I attach a databank (a .csv file) to the driver script as script asset. Say this .csv file has got 10 different columns with just single record/row.
    As and when the function call goes to those 5 scripts i.e one by one, then based on the function call the corresponding columns are used and the data for those columns must be read.
    Is there any solution to acheive this?
    Faster help is highly appreciated.

    Hi JB,
    what i was looking for, was an approach to use a databank file (.csv file) in a parent script and then by reading that .csv file, the data should be moved from the parent script to individual child scripts.
    The child scripts are very generic scripts and are like library functions which are not data dependent. they are fully parameterized and they dont have any sort of databank attached to them.
    Now the question is if the databank has got 10 columns where first 3 columns belong to one child script, second 3 columns belong to 2nd child script and so on.
    Then how do we pass the values from parent script to a child script and what is the best/recommended approach.

  • How do I fix my iMessage to work with my phone number?

    Two days ago, my iMessage randomly decided to stop working. I am abroad in Asia right now so I have been using iMessage to keep in touch with friends and family at home (US) when I am connected through wifi.
    My issue is that under the "Send and Recieve" in the iMessage settings, my phone number is not listed. Originally, it was greyed out and not selected but after going to an Apple store here and rebooting the settings, the phone number disappeared all together. I have turned off/on wifi, airplane mode, imessage, facetime, date/time, etc. I know the Apple ID is registered with my phone number because when I choose to sign out of my Apple ID and the sign back in under the iMessage settings, my phone number and email are selected to be used. But when I click Next, only my email is shown.
    I will be abroad at least a few more weeks and would really like for it to work here again. I'm afraid it won't work when I'm back in the US as well. Any suggestions on how to fix this?

    Correct, my cellular data is currently off. I don't think this will solve my problem because I was able to use iMessage before without my data and only on wifi. If nothing else works, I will try this. But I would like to try to find a solution that doesn't require me using data.

  • How do I fix Graphics don't work on FF 11.0 on Win 7?

    After upgrading to FF 11.0 and RoboForm v7.7.4 graphics do not show up on my screen in Yahoo or MSN. I don't know where the problem is or how to fix it. Do you?

    So, do you mean that Images on certain websites aren't appearing? Let's try a few things that might help.
    First, try clearing your cache ([[How to clear the cache|How to clear the cache]]). Firefox stores temporary copies of frequently visit websites to your computer to speed web browsing, but that store sometimes doesn't work properly. Clearing it will help us determine if there is an issue there or not.
    If that doesn't work, the article [[Websites look wrong|Websites look wrong]] has several steps you can take to try to resolve your issue.
    Let me know if this helps.

  • Nothing firefox is starting, how can i fix it if nothing works?

    recently my firefox wont start even though every other browser works fine. i've tried the fixes here but no form of firefox program will start and task manger doesnt show them. i've tried uninstalling and clearing the appdata and still nothing. nothing seems to be fixing the problem even at a fresh start.

    Hello gerardito,
    They will not buy it. The most they will do is offer you a 10% discount towards the purchase of a new iPod Touch if you are willing to trade in the old one.
    You can choose to have it repaired by Apple or a third party company if you wish.
    B-rock

  • TS3074 windows tells me that framework 4.0 already install, it doesn't give the option to repair the file, resulting of no option to do anything else? what should i do, how i can fix this itune 2 work, yesterday it works fine but when i came 2 install upd

    what should i do??
    give me message error 7 for itune and error message 126 for windwos works fine until i did updates yesterday.

    Go to Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs (Win XP) or Programs and Features(Later)
    Remove all of these items in the following order:
    iTunes
    Apple Software Update
    Apple Mobile Device Support (If this won't uninstall press on)
    Bonjour
    Apple Application Support
    Reboot, download iTunes, then reinstall, either using an account with administrative rights, or right-clicking the downloaded installer and selecting Run as Administrator.
    See also HT1925: Removing and Reinstalling iTunes for Windows XP or HT1923: Removing and reinstalling iTunes for Windows Vista, Windows 7, or Windows 8
    Should you get the error iTunes.exe - Entry Point Not Found after the above reinstall then copy QTMovieWin.dll from:
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Apple\Apple Application Support
    and paste into:
    C:\Program Files (x86)\iTunes
    The above paths would be for a 64-bit machine. Hopefully the same fix with the " (x86)" omitted would work on 32-bit systems with the same error.
    tt2

Maybe you are looking for

  • Receiver File Adapter: Keep original Filename in E-Mail Attachment

    Dear All On our SAP-XI 7.0.1 (EHP 1, sp 4) we have the following scenario: (1) SAP-XI picks a FlatFile from the R/3 application server. This file should be forwarded unmodified to the e-mail receiver. (2) In the Sender channel I have set the option "

  • How to send data (file and text both) from jsp to servlet

    upload JSP  case 1>> if i am using this  <form enctype="multipart/form-data" the file value is comming on the servlet side          and other vales are not comming when i am using request.get parameter(....); case 2>>  if i am using this <form  type=

  • Corrupt NVRAM - Possibly????

    Hi, I have a really funny problem with my iMac 21" Intel Core 2 Duo. It boots really slowly and when it reaches that login screen it has a kind of blue hue faded look. The keyboard and mouse clicks are unresponsive but the mouse cursor moves. I can A

  • Display long text field in multiple rows using CL_GUI_ALV_TREE

    Hi, I am working on ALV using CL_GUI_ALV_TREE. My last column in this ALV is a long text field which is a text editor field in a standard transactiion. As this text can have more than 250 characters value also, I want to display this field in more th

  • FAE help with export - iphoto crashing

    Hello, I'm trying to use FAE to create the portfolio section (graphic design) of my site. Thanks to the help of a few folks on this forum i've found extensive instructions on how to do so. I've successfully created practice albums with pictures alrea