How to execute java programs in xcode

I cannot execute Java program in XCode for Mountain Lion 10.8.2. Please help me how to execute a Java program.

Do you have a particular error or message or diagnostic or issue, or something that's particularly wrong with Xcode? If installed, Java does work, and Java applications can be invoked.
Background: Java was deprecated from OS X a while back, and Java itself was removed from the default OS X 10.8 installation.
Given that Java is now an add-on for OS X, you'll want to check with Oracle — the owner of Java — for OS X kits and tools.
I don't know off-hand if Xcode still particularly supports Java (it was pretty weak, when last I checked), but I'd expect you'll be using makefiles for the work, and I'd also suspect that whatever Java support remains in Xcode will probably be going away in some future version of Xcode. (If support hasn't already disappeared. You may be using bash build scripts and makefiles to deal with Java now, or going forward.)
If you don't have access to the Apple developer forums and the discussions of tools available there, then the archives of the Apple Java-Dev mailing list can be a good spot to look for existing discussions, and to post questions related to Java development on OS X.
As for IDEs other than Xcode, Eclipse or NetBeans or IntelliJ IDEA, and BlueJ all run on OS X, and any of these would probably be a better long-term choices for Java development on OS X.

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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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-- DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - it is machine generated!
args   JNI.ARGLIST;
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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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PROCEDURE wait(
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BEGIN
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PROCEDURE wait(
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BEGIN
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END;
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FUNCTION equals(
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BEGIN
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BEGIN
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P.S. If you want to talk about a nag of a female character, you gotta love (as in hate) Cersei. She gets her on POV in Feast. Good stuff.
YEAH I LIKE CERSEI ACTUALLY. GRRM IS GOOD IN HOW THERE REALLY IS NO MAIN CHARACTER AND EVERYONE IS VERY EXCITING TO READ. RJ ON THE OTHERHAND HAS A DEFINATE CENTRAL CHARACTER TO THE PLOT, AND CHAPTER AFTER CHAPTER OF SOME OF THE FEMALE POV'S GOT AGGRAVATING ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY NAG SO MUCH THE TRUER HEROS OF THE STORY (MY OPINION)... ITS LIKE, SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND LET THEM SAVE THE DAY ALREADY... HEHE... BUT YOU'LL SEE OR HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION ENTIRELY.
to you i recommend orson scott card... you've probably read ender's game but he has some really good fantasy too... the homecoming series (first book call of earth or memory of earth) was really good, and the alvin maker series is ok plotwise but the characters are incredible... i found a lot of humor and witty dialog in that series and enjoyed it immensely. anyways, thanks again for the list additions, will read feast of crows first, hopefully soon. glad to hear you're liking it... some reviews on amazon weren't stellar.

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