Idoc to soap sync without bpm. is it possible? Helping me..

Hi Experts,
i have a small clarification Idoc to soap sync interface in sap pi 7.0. i created IDoc to Soap sync using BPM but some times the signals are stuck due to load issue in swpr, while reprocess those signals all going successfully to the receiver. So We are trying to eliminate BPM.
I just wanted to know Idoc to Soap sync scenario without BPM is possible or not in SAP PI 7.0?
if it is possible kindly send me the links
Regards,
Kiran polani

Hi Kiran,
Could you please let us know the exact requirement. How do you want to send the response back to IDOC?
ASync - Sync Bridge with IDOC sender is not possible in PI 7.0.
If It is something like IDOC --> SOAP --> IDOC , And If the SOAP request is small then you can use SOAP Lookup in IDOC to IDOC Scenario.
In The mapping You can do a lookup and get the response from SOAP(Webservice) and map that to your Target IDOC.
This is one possible way for you without BPM in PI7.0.
Please let me know if you need more details about this.
Thanks
Jyothi A

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