Image quality of iDVD material

I use AfterEffects, as well as Final Cut Express, to create content. Recently I put together a program that was all AE, 24 fps, and output as a 16 bit per channel animation 'movie', ie high color resolution. When this program is played directly via Quicktime, everything is smooth.
However, after processing it to a DVD via iDVD 6.0.3, I see artifacts such as massive 'color' banding, as if the colors a subsampled to 4 bits. This is especially noticably in 'smooth gradient' areas of the image.
What of course is intersting when I 'play' the preview of the material, all looks correct, it is only after the conversion via iDVD to Mpeg2 that the results look like crap.
What is the format to give to iDVD which has the highest quality, and does the least damage to the resulting content.
Thanks,
John Clark.

There are several issues when creating media from 'something other than DV'. My work is predominantly stills at the moment, so some of these items may affect what you are trying to do.
For the most part my usual 'main goal' is to make computer/internet playable media, and so I don't usually worry about two things Pixel Aspect Ratio, and Frame Rate. Computers use 'square' pixels, and Video because of historical reasons, uses a rectangular pixel. This 'necessarily' introduces some changes in the image when converting. If one just forces the square pixels into the the rectangular, one gets distortion, ie round circles turn into elispses.
However, at the moment I need to make a 'promo' DVD and so I need to findout what the limitaitons, and what are the ways to make things as good as possible on DVD, and given that I don't have the money or even the call for making DVD's with more expensive tools, and perhaps actually more suited for my quality needs...
The next item is frame rate. I usually do 24 fps, that in itself is a form of compression, but I have been lately using the H.264 codec and it seems to be pretty good for my purposes.
Depending on the hardware being used to play, I will see some artifacts from dropping frames. But usually this is not so overwehlmingly objectionable... otherwise I'd figure what codecs and parameters to use to make things smoother.
DVD's use 'Mpeg 2' as their underlying format. Mpeg 2 is capable of handling 24 fps material, as well as 'high resolution', 'square pixels', etc. However, most of the Mpeg 2 compressors targeting DVD often are setup only to produce pixels in 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratios.
In order for 24 fps to be correctly played at 29.97 fps it has to be converted.
In addition to any of the above, there is the 'compression' rate of the media. A Standard Definition video can be compressed to 6 Mbits/s data rate, with almost no 'human preceptable' loss. Going lower than this, usually introduces certain types of artifacts. Blocky 'big pixels' especially at the egdes of items in the image (usually very visible on 'photos'...), and of course the other way to compress is to make the color palette very 'small'.
I did an experiement where I took my 24 fps 16 bit/channel media, and then used Final Cut Express to encode it using the Apple HD intermediate codec. I saw some of the same artifacts as what I have seen on the iDVD output. However, it was far less than what iDVD produced.
I'm going to experiement with taking the Apple HD media and selecting the 'Best Quality' on the encoding, as opposed to 'Best Performance' (and as a subnote, background encoding... why these are somehow tied together is beyond me...)
On that topic when talking about encoding, it would be nice to know if iDVD produces a 2 pass variable bit rate package, or is it 1 pass and constant bit rate... while these probably were left out of any discription as being 'too obscure' for most casual users it would help analyze problems...

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    V
    I'm using iMac G5 divided my 250 GB in 2 disks wich has 31 Go of free space on my HD at the moment. Using iDVD and i Movie 6.0.2
    Imac G5   Mac OS X (10.4.7)   2.1 GHz Power PC G5, mémoire 1.5 GO DDR2 SDram

    Hi ! Thanx for responding...
    In FCP i did choose export DV/NTSC and imported from camera with apple firewire NTSC (720x480). Should i have imported material in (640x480/30fps/interlaced...) ?
    I have had this problem with smaller projects of 20 min of video also so i don't think it has to do with size... At the moment i am making a disc image of my dvd on my desktop hoping to burn through Toast. Otherwise i am also thinking about exporting movie from FCP to tape then importing back to iMov through camera...
    I'm kind of desperate and don't really know what to do... I'm also gonna start reading compressor 2 and maybe forget about iDVD an d just burn it through toast. Wich is kind of dissapointing cause without interface, menu and all...
    V

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