Impact of Gross or net document type in calculating Cash discount

Hi Gurus,
I need to know what is the impact of the Gross document type in caluclating the cash discount while paying to vendors?
what if we check the net docuemnt type in docyment type ?
can you tell me the implications on checking this net or gross document type while posting invoice.
regards
rohini kumar

Hi
there is no mistake in that.
If you are using a Gross Invoice Document Type - RE at the time of MIRO Only the gross amount is taken forward for Payment &
At the time of Payment the discount is applied , so the Net value( Gross - cash Discount) will be Posted as a non operating result, the cash discount ammount is not levied on the Material cost where as it is posted into a sperate account.
But if you have already taken Net Invocice document type - RN at the time of MIRO then this discount will be posted as a material cost.
Thanks & Regards
Kishore

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If I look at the following figure:-
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u200/masarada/Fig1.jpg
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