Importing Pantone + series libraries from Pantone Color Manager

Greetings,
I'm exporting Pantone + series libraries from Pantonce Color Manager to Illustrator. Specifically Solid Coated & Uncoated. When I open the libraries on Illustrator the values don't match my color guides. That problem doesn't happen when I export them to Photoshop or InDesign. To make things more interesting doesn't happen either when I export + Series Bridge Color Libraries, only on solid colors ?!?!?. I'm using Illustrator CS5.5, any suggestions would be valuable, thanks!
Aldo

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but you are only licensed to use the version of the software supplied by Lenovo, and any updates that Lenovo has licensed through Pantone. Unlike say video drivers, the commercial Pantone software is pay-for-use, and not tied to Lenovo licensing.

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    1.  Set your system to associate the system-provided sRGB profile with your monitor(s). This is done via OS configuration dialogs.
    2.  Set your monitor(s) to as closely match the sRGB color space as possible.  Some monitors were manufactured to be close, and others have the ability to be set that way.  Still others can't be directly set that way, but the system response can be tweaked with the basic controls (brightness, contrast, saturation, etc., as well as the curves adjustments in the video card drivers).
    When the above conditions are met, you will see the following results:
    A.  sRGB image documents, which are the majority of those published online and are usually the default output from digital cameras, will appear consistently the same in color-managed (Photoshop) and non-color-managed applications.  Depending on your needs you can configure Photoshop to work in the sRGB color space for creating your own images (this is actually Photoshop's default).
    B.  In Photoshop and other color-managed apps you will get good overall color-management of image documents in other color spaces, though you'll see just the out-of-gamut colors (i.e., those colors from a larger color space that just can't be displayed in the sRGB color space) as fully-saturated and thus somewhat inaccurate.  In practice, most colors in most images fall within the sRGB gamut.
    C. You'll see accurate color management by the partially* color-managed Internet Explorer 9, within the constraints of item B above.
    D.  Since the sRGB color profile that comes with every Windows system is well formed, and is the default, there is a near zero chance that a color-managed application will misinterpret it and produce screwy color.  Such misinterpretation DOES happen with other profiles, a surprising number of times, even sometimes with profiles generated by good quality color measurement and profiling devices.  Color profiles are not trivial, and some software simply can't use some profiles.
    The real (non-trivial) trick in this strategy is actually getting your monitor to closely match the sRGB color space without using a monitor profile.  However, it IS possible to get it close, and for many people "close enough" + "consistent across more apps" is better than "perfectly accurate in Photoshop but mismatching other apps".  It can even be checked with a profiling device to help with the fine tuning.
    -Noel
    *IE9 interprets your document color profile and always transforms it into the sRGB color space, regardless of your monitor profile.  Thus the only way to make the colors come out right is to have the monitor actually BE sRGB.  So far, unfortunately, it appears IE10 in Windows 8 is following this same "half baked" strategy.

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