In my GREP style I want it to find a different / (forward slash) in glyph set
Hello!
I have a GREP style that I have been using to find fractions and it works fine.
The issue now, is we are not going to be using the standard / in the glyph set, but a different one. It's a unique one built into the font.
This is the part of the GREP style I have that finds the /
(?<=\d)/(?=\d)
Now, I need to replace the symbol between the 2 sets of parenthesis, the thing its actually applying a character style too, to a unique looking symbol in the glyph set, but I don't know how to replace it. I tried to copy and paste it, but it did not work.
Is there a way to tell a GREP Style to look for a GLYPH's GID or UNICODE number?
So, it might look more like this:
(?<=\d)GID217(?=\d)
thanks
babs
Hi Peter!
OK-that does work. Took me a bit, but I got it.
Problem now is, I then also had to switch the / for the Unicode one for the numerator and denominator GREP style part. I almost have it, but for some reason, the slash is saying its using a mixed style (you know, when you select something, one character in a GREP style, but in the character panel, it tells you at the bottom wihch one its using). This now says mixes instead of slash for the character style name, and isn't correct.
Can you see what might be wrong in this snapshot?
thanks so much!!!!
babs
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