Independent Zone Paths for Failover Services

We wish to use Sun Cluster 3.2 to operate failover zones across 3 or more servers. It would seem that for failover services, zone paths must exist on shared storage and all associated failover zones must use that exact zone filesystem. However for load-balancing, it appears that multiple independent zonepaths are allowed.
My question is can failover zones be deployed WITHOUT using a single zone path filesystem. It seems to me that it complicates patching and maintenance to the zone filesystem if it is always in use. Not to mention, a corruption in that zone path's files would be forced on the entire set of zones using that path.
I'm new to Sun Cluster and am skittish about deploying a large fiber channel infrastructure if it is not really necessary. Thanks for any corrections / advice on the above.

Now I understand what you want to achieve. Unfortunately wording is not yet precise with all these new technologies.
What you need is not the HA Container agent, and what you want is not failover zones. But you want to have local zones, and let HA services failover between local zones on different nodes. Nothing easier than that. Just use the "normal" procedures to configure an agent. Now, instead of using the nodenames for the nodelist of the resource group, give it a list of the zone names that you want this service to run in. Example could be:
clrg create -p nodelist=host-A:zone-FOO,host-B:zone-FOO,host-C:zoneFOO. Now you can switch the HA service between the zone-FOO(s) on the 3 nodes without switching the zones themselves. And you can patch them without taking the service offline. Great.
If you want to make the data that your HA service uses highly available, you still would need some kind of shared filesystem. How could the HA service, switched onto another node:zone would get access to it, if not via a filesystem that was also switched over?
There is still value to the HA COntainer agent: if, e.g. you want to use the blackbox approach and do not care much about the potential outages of the zones during patch cycles. And there is more.
Hope that helps
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