InDesign Cell Strokes

Is there a way in ID CS3 to have the cell stroke stay inside of the cell instead of splitting the cell border so that a 6 point cell stroke takes away from the cell that it is in instead of taking 3 points from the cell and the same amount from the one next to it?

I'm afraid not. Because cell strokes are shared with adjacent cells, their strokes must be defined symmetrically.
Dave

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Setting table/cell strokes to overprint

is there a way to ad line in following script to set cell strokes in overprint?
this script has been very useful to me (thanks to Jongware (http://forums.adobe.com/message/2818852#2818852)) but it's missing the overprint feature for strokes.
table = app.selection[0];
if (table.hasOwnProperty("baseline"))
table = table.parent;
if (table instanceof Cell)
table = table.parent;
if (table instanceof Column)
table = table.parent;
if (table instanceof Row)
table = table.parent;
if (!(table instanceof Table))
alert ("Echt niet in een tabel!");
exit(0);
color = table.cells[0].characters[0].fillColor;
black = app.activeDocument.swatches.item("Black");
table.cells.everyItem().properties = {
topEdgeStrokeColor:color,
bottomEdgeStrokeColor:color,
leftEdgeStrokeColor:color,
rightEdgeStrokeColor:color };
for (aCell=0; aCell<table.cells.length; aCell++)
if (table.cells[aCell].fillTint == 50)
table.cells[aCell].fillColor = color;
tia, Pascal

Hey!
It's easy to solve your problem.
In red is what you have to add...
table = app.selection[0];
if (table.hasOwnProperty("baseline"))
table = table.parent;
if (table instanceof Cell)
table = table.parent;
if (table instanceof Column)
table = table.parent;
if (table instanceof Row)
table = table.parent;
if (!(table instanceof Table))
alert ("Echt niet in een tabel!");
exit(0);
color = table.cells[0].characters[0].fillColor;
black = app.activeDocument.swatches.item("Black");
table.cells.everyItem().properties = {
topEdgeStrokeColor:color,
bottomEdgeStrokeColor:color,
leftEdgeStrokeColor:color,
rightEdgeStrokeColor:color,
bottomEdgeStrokeOverprint:true,
leftEdgeStrokeOverprint:true,
rightEdgeStrokeOverprint:true,
topEdgeStrokeOverprint:true};
for (aCell=0; aCell<table.cells.length; aCell++)
if (table.cells[aCell].fillTint == 50)
table.cells[aCell].fillColor = color;
tomaxxi

ID5: Table cell strokes &!^@)ed up

I'm trying to add a stroke to the top and bottom of a selection of cells. Sometime it works, sometimes it adds the stroke too all sides of all cells in the selection. What's going on? Even it I select just the bottom row and try to stroke the bottom I get tops and sides stroked, too. Also, the wrongly added stroke is the wrong weight (1 pt, instead of 0.5 pt). WTF x 2!
I've tried using the Control panel and the Stroke panel. Makes no difference.
This is extremely frustrating. What should be a simple process is taking a very long time to get right, adding strokes that shouldn't be added, then selectively removing them from individual cells.

> Do you have a 1 pt. Table Border applied?
No. No table border applied until I went in to selectively apply the strokes to selected cells. The Table Style I started from has no strokes.
>If you turn off all Table Strokes, and then turn off all Cell Strokes, then apply the .5 pt. stroke to the desired cells, does that work?
No. That's basically what I'm doing. I select a range of cells that have no strokes, neither between the cells nor around any side on the selection.
>And when you apply the cell stroke, you only need to have the middle horizontal cell selected.
No. I want to stroke the top of the selection and the bottom of the selection, so the middle segments are un-highlighted.

InDesign table strokes

Hi,
I have a table 7 rows by 6 columns which I want to customise in the following way, but can't work out how to do it:
I want to apply vertical magenta strokes to run from the 2nd row to the 7th row.
I do not want horizontal magenta strokes on the 3rd row down to the 7th row.
I want a magenta stroke on all 4 sides of the table.
A simpler way would be for me to ask, "is it possible to customise individual and groups of cells so that they only have horizontal or vertical strokes.
Alternatively I could complete this by getting rid of all the strokes and inserting them manually with the Line Tool.

You can customize the cell strokes to your heart's content. You just have to use the Strokes panel, the Swatches panel and the Control panel in appropriate combination.
The proxy in the Control panel determines which of the selected strokes you are operating on with your actions in the other two panels -- actually, a lot of the Strokes panel actions are also available in the Control panel.
Check the Help for details.
Dave

InDesign Table Cell Strokes not appearing perfect

How do you get row and column strokes in a table to appear perfectly joined? When I choose "Column Strokes in Front" (Under Table Setup) i still see a tiny row stroke, and vice versus.. it's really visible in the PDF almost can't see it in InDesign though you can a little...

Thank you, although I doubled and even tripled checked the blue highlighted cell option and they visibly appear to be selected and in blue color, but when printed not the case.
This document is a product catalog, 50 plus pages and I have about 15 of those pages not showing the stroked edge. So that is why I thought, perhaps something was blocking the edge and arranged the table to the front with hopes of a difference, but that too failed. I am turning grey by the minute.

InDesign CS3 cell stroke function is &*^%up

After working with table cells and application of borders for, oh, at least 2.5 hours, I have found that if you want a stroke on the bottom of a cell, then, apply it to the TOP; and if you want a stroke on left side of cell, apply it to the RIGHT side, and so on. There is no way to choose the table and apply a horizontal or vertical stroke between the cells, I have to apply the style to every cell. Glad I'm working on a table with only 20 cells.
Am I the only one that is visited by this border demon?
Thanks. karen.

Let me rephrase that. If you select a block of cells, that proxy represents the entire block. If the bottom stroke is active in the proxy, the settings you apply will be applied along the bottom of the block. If one or both of the of the center strokes are active, the settings you apply will be applied to the horizontal or vertical divisions between the cells in the block. To set different paramenters for one group of strokes, deselect the others in the proxy and they won't be affected.

Longtime bug: Table cell strokes disappearing

I was hoping this would be fixed in CS5, but apparently not.
I want a very simple table with just horizontal rules above each line. I want to set this as a cell style, so I can apply and unapply for maximum flexibility.
So this is what I want:
row 1, col 1     row 1, col 2   row 1, col 3
row 2, col 1     row 2, col 2   row 2, col 3
row 3, col 1     row 3, col 2   row 3, col 3
Here's what I do:
- I create a new table.
- I remove the ugly borders that are applied by default, and I save that as a new table style (because, apparently, I'm unable to overwrite the default style).
- I select the cells from the top row (or all rows or just one) and apply a top border of, say, 1 point. I save that as a cell style called "ruled."
- Problem is, when I try to apply this to a specific cell or row, the cell underneath loses its stroke. So if I apply the "ruled" style to row 2, col 2, the table looks like this:
row 1, col 1     row 1, col 2   row 1, col 3
row 2, col 1     row 2, col 2   row 2, col 3
row 3, col 1     row 3, col 2   row 3, col 3
When I check the cell style of row 3/col 2, the Cell Styles palette claims that it's the "ruled" style with no custom formatting. But the border says 0. When I double-check the cell style options, sure enough, it's supposed to be 1 point. So if I apply the style, it gets applied -- but, then, the cell beneath *that* one (if there is one) loses its stroke!
So every time I have to make a change, I have to apply the strokes all the way down the table.
Of course, this completely negates the advantage of having a style. If I have to manually apply and re-apply formatting for every cell, there is no point to having a style.
If I am doing this wrong, I'd love to know a solution. I've grappled with this for years, and I've always ended up abandoning styles, which should be one of the most powerful features.
As a corollary, I've occasionally tried alternating row strokes (using every line) for the table style, from which I've had mixed results. This would work in some cases, but I also sometimes want tables with only some columns ruled, like so:
row 1, col 1     row 1, col 2   row 1, col 3
row 2, col 1     row 2, col 2   row 2, col 3
row 3, col 1     row 3, col 2   row 3, col 3
I suppose I could override the cells in the non-ruled column with cell styles without rules, given that the cell styles function seems awfully good at making strokes disappear ...
Thanks for any help!

Yes, yes, yes! Thank you!
So I need to select top AND middle when applying the stroke, then redefine style if necessary. I guess, due to interface confusion, I was ignoring the middle stroke, thinking it was only for full table-level styling.
In the style options dialog for the Cell Styles, you don't even see a middle stroke. You only get middle strokes if you select the cell and use the stroke palette for local formatting.

InDesign CS4 Strokes Inconsistent on frames

Okay…I did some searching and haven't found anything on this unless I missed it somewhere. I work for a catalog company and we have a ton of old catalogs we pull from and reuse elements from and what we've found is that the strokes on the frames for boxes are not accurate even though all the attributes say they're identical.
It doesn't seem to matter which version of OS X or InDesign we open the files up in they're different visually and when printed out.

I also never use the scale tool, opting for KB shorcut modifiers and the selection tool, so the behavior isn't restricted to using the scale tool. When ID behaves this way it actually shows the scaled percentage, instead of always showing 100%, in the horizontal and vertical scale fields when selecting an object with the selection tool, which can be extremely helpful in some cases. Consider this frame:
My daughter's cat is scaled evenly inside a frame that was scaled unevenly to create a border that's wider on the vertical legs than the horizontals, and while the stroke is listed at 5 pts, you can see in the scale fields that this was the value assigned when the stroke was created, but that the frame was modified. Looks a bit like a 35mm film clip.
Changing the preference back to apply scaling to content makes it impossible to even create this frame. Whether that's good or bad would be a matter of opinion and whether your workflow should allow unbalanced strokes.
Now that I've discovered it, I kind of like what it does with ellipses and freeform shapes drawn with the pen tool -- kind of a low-rent version of what you can do in Illustrator by applying a brush stroke. Thanks to you I've learned a new technique.

InDesign cs5, stroke effects js

Hi,
I need to change stroke's effect to Difference' and I could not find anything for effects in the OMV under StrokeStyle or anything under Stroke. How do I assign it, or am I'm looking in the wrong place at all.
Thank you for your help.
Yulia

Hi,
Well, unfortunately, you are looking at wrong place.
StrokeStyle is managing Dashed/Dotted/Striped strokes, and not for managing stroke effects.
You want to change stroke transparency settings, so the code would look like this:
app.selection[0].strokeTransparencySettings.blendingSettings.blendMode = BlendMode.DIFFERENCE;
Hope that helps.
Marijan (tomaxxi)
http://tomaxxi.com

How do you have the bottom stroke of a table show up using Table Styles and Cell Styles only?

I am using InDesign CS6, and I want to create a Table Style that has the bottom stroke show up, but does not have a table border, such as:
However, whenever I try to change the Table or Cell strokes so that the last stroke shows up, I get the entire table border, or some strange combination of borders:
Does anyone have any insight on how I can get the bottom stroke to show up while preserving my other stroke properties? Since I work with long documents, it's necessary to be able to control all of my tables through Table Styles and Cell Styles, and not by manually changing each and every table with the Stroke palette.
For reference, here are the my current Table Style properties and the resulting table:

Michael Murphy is the InDesign style-meister. He wrote "Adobe InDesign Styles" for Adobe Press, and did a great Lynda.com title on InDesign styling. Here's what he says in the book:
"As mentioned at the beginning of this chapter, with all the power of table and cell styles, it is important to understand not only how they work and what they can do for you, but also to understand their limitations.
"Two formatting features missing in table and cell styles have already been discussed: You will always have to set the column width and row height of cells when applying a table style for the first time, and you will always have to convert body rows to header and/or footer rows every time you apply a table style for first time or update the table's data....
"But there's another kind of limitation that's important to keep in mind as you are designing tables: It is very easy to design a table that cannot be completely defined by a table style. In many cases, you'll need to define an extra cell style or two that lets you complete for formatting. [my emphasis]."
So I think that's what you have to do: Apply another cell style on top of the cells at the bottom of the table after applying the table style.

Finding cells by content en replace stroke & fill colour

I have generated in InDesign CS3 a catalogue with hundreds of tables.
unfortunatly there was a mistake or two in building the tables. In a way I need to replace a stroke colour from a cell and also a fill colour.
So my question is if there is a way in InDeisgn CS3 for automatically...
searching in a document for table cells with "text colour Black_EN" AND "fill colour Black_EN" and change that particular cell stroke colour in Black_EN
searching in a document for table cells with "text colour Black_EN" AND "fill colour Black" and change that particular cell fill colour in Black_EN
Can someone help me with a usable script? I'm a newie to scripting so any help is usefull!
thanks in advance, Pascal (form Belgium)

Aaahh .. the old adage of one picture equalling a thousand words. In this case, the words are rather long, as the image is >280K.
O-kay. You have lots of tables, possibly some with bad colors, but the text is always the correct color. How does this sound: you click inside any table, and the script checks the current text color (*). Then it sets all strokes to that color, and the fill of every cell with a 50% fill pattern. It means you can select a table, run the script, select the next, run the script, etc. until done (or utterly bored, whatever comes first).
(*) Actually, the text color of the first character in the top left cell. I hope that's not a problem.
The script is fairly indifferent to your selection: anywhere inside, in the text, or with a cell, row, column or even the entire table selected is no problem.
Graag gedaan! (having them English folks choke on our Dutch gees)
table = app.selection[0];
if (table.hasOwnProperty("baseline"))
table = table.parent;
if (table instanceof Cell)
table = table.parent;
if (table instanceof Column)
table = table.parent;
if (table instanceof Row)
table = table.parent;
if (!(table instanceof Table))
alert ("Echt niet in een tabel!");
exit(0);
color = table.cells[0].characters[0].fillColor;
black = app.activeDocument.swatches.item("Black");
table.cells.everyItem().properties = {
topEdgeStrokeColor:color,
bottomEdgeStrokeColor:color,
leftEdgeStrokeColor:color,
rightEdgeStrokeColor:color };
for (aCell=0; aCell<table.cells.length; aCell++)
if (table.cells[aCell].fillTint == 50)
table.cells[aCell].fillColor = color;

InDesign CS3; Tables; How to remove vertical stroke??

Have an 8 column table with 1/2pt vertical stroke/rule between each column. How can I remove/delete only the vertical stroke/rule between column 7 & 8??

Select your columns.
In the cell stroke box, click on the strokes to select and set the weight.

Copy Paste cell/table from OpenOffice

Hi,
I have a problem pasting text from cells from OpenOffice Writer to Indesign cells because it's seems that unlike Microsoft Word, OpenOffice separate the different elements of a table by a carriage return and not by a tabulation.
Does anyone know the solution?
Thanks,
Edouard

I am not using CS3, but testing NeoOffice with CS2 I see the same behavior as with Excel.
Tables come in as text with tabs between columns and paragraph returns between rows.
Using Dave Saunders PopTabFromClip script allows pasting of the data into predefined tables.
If you need to convert the text pasted in direct from NeoOffice to Tables, then the method is to go ahead and paste, then select the text and use the Table menu option Convert Text to Table.
I cannot comment on OpenOffice as I am not seeing the behavior reported by Edo75.
-mt
PS: I now see that Edo75 is using the Writer part (Word equivalent) of the office instead of the Spreadsheet (Excel equivalent). Could that be the issue?
Edit: Yep, same issue. Try pasting into a new Spreadsheet, then copy the data again before pasting into InDesign. That fixed the behavior for me.

Maverick et CS5.5

Bonjour à tous,
Je n'arrive plus a rassembler mes documents indesign depuis mon passage a maverick.
En détail, pour vous donner l'ensemble des éléments pour faciliter vos réponses.
Depuis, plus possible d'utiliser cette fonction dans indesign, cela bloque sur la récupération des liens, avec pour message que les liens ne peuvent être rassembler.
J'ai testé cette même opération en redémarrant sur snow-leopard avec le même fichier, tous c'est passé correctement.
Avez-vous déjà rencontré ce problème ?
Merci !

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Adding a top and bottom line in tables

If some one could point me at the instructions I am happy to look it up!
I would like a table of just row strokes inlcluding top and bottom of the table and with alternate strokes weights
I have achieved this before, but for the life of me cannot remember how, if someone could help please?

Without looking at the design you have in mind, I think you will need to create a Cell Style and include that Cell Style in a Table Style. Here is what might work for you:
1) Create a Cell Style. In the Cell Style Options dialog, under Strokes and Fills, click on the top and bottom (horizontal) lines of the Cell Stroke to exclude them from being considered. Set the Weight of the left & right vertical line to 0.
2) Create a Table Style and in its Options dialog, select the Cell Style you created above for Body Rows. If you want a separate color/weight for the Top and Bottom Borders of the Table, set it under Table Setup. Then set the Alternating Pattern (Every other row) for Row Strokes.
Then apply the Table Style to the table.
Here is what I came up with while trying this out:
Hope this helps.

InDesign Cell Strokes

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