InDesign foreign languages???

I am going to be working on a project that will be created in multiple languages. It's been a long time since I have done something like this, and when I did, I used Quark Passport [which I don't have since that was at an employer's office and I freelance at home].
Does anyone know if CS3 InDesign supports this function? Is there a plug-in or something I need to do or get to be able to work in Chinese, Japanese or European languages?
Thanks!
Pam
p.s. I just started researching this now and thought this forum was a good place to start

CJK fonts generally include ASCII, so if you type in ASCII that's what you get. Accessing CJK characters from the keyboard requires a special remapping, and bunches of keyboards come with OS X. However, I'm not sure I'd load one if I weren't going to be typing CJK: if you accidentally hit the key combination that turns on, say Chinese input, then it can seem as though your keyboard has ceased functioning. This happens to me every now and again, and I should know better.
Good luck!
David

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So, again: XML will not save you a single pence on translations. But it might help you to produce more open, more accessible, more reusable, more reliable, more consistent, in a nutshell: more valuable data. But if you already have properly set up (ustructured) FrameMaker Documents and already work with a professional translation memory system, you will be quite disappointed to learn, that the impressive money saving promises you recently saw on that great PowerPoint slides melt down to a few bucks over a couple of years.
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Message was edited by: TheRoadhouse

TheRoadhouse wrote:
I am a foreign language student (Russian), and am trying to buy a foreign language apple keyboard (preferably wireless) in the states. I know they are available in Europe (my stepdaughter confirms she can get one thriugh her apple store), yet when I try to do the same here, they deny they even exist!! (This is the case even on the online store!!!)
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This is a frustrating (and in my opinion, fairly serious) problem, and I am sure I am not the only one who is going through this fiasco. I certainly don't want to pay 5x the price via a "smuggler", I would rather get peripherials FOR my apple FROM apple.
So Apple, what gives? There's a market for these products here, my MacBook Pro WILL support this product... So why won't you let me buy one (or even admit to me you even have such a thing, when those overseas have free access to them)?
Message was edited by: TheRoadhouse
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