Ink saturation too heavy regardless of color settings

Epson RX 500. WHether color management is on or off, ink almost drips off stock- unless using standard offset, and then it looks like bad RGB to CMYK conversion. Would appreciate any help or even just a response..... anything..... all I get from Apple is "It's and Epson issue". All I get from EPSON is "are your photos very colorful? did you try using the "Gloss" setting? " I mean, C'Mon... it's not like this was a 5 yr old offbrand freebie that sat in someone's garage under plaster dust... it is a reputable company and well purchased model that is like new and no one will help.... no one even acknowledges that I post a question... and this is the 4th time in 18 mos that I have posted.....

It's all in the profiles. You need to use the correct profile for the paper you're using, along with the correct paper and ColorSync/profile settings in the print driver.
Profiles can be applied before, or during the print setup. If you're printing out of Photoshop/Elements, you can can choose your profiles for output there. Then when the print dialogue comes up, you tell it to use no color management. Or do it the other way around and tell Photoshop to print the image "As is" (no color management) and then do all of the color settings in the Epson print dialogue.
But one way or the other, you apply the ColorSync settings only ONCE. This all assuming that you installed all of the profiles the printer came with. You then choose the one that relates to the paper you're using.

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The ink is too heavy and too wet on the photos.

The printer is an HP PHotosmart C8180. I am using HP advanced photo paper and HP ink. I have cleaned the printhead twice and all ink levels are good. Photos printed two days ago were good. I have the settings on 4x6 boarderless, the paper type HP advanced photo paper. Would really appreciate some help. Thanks

Hello GirlK,
Welcome to the HP Forums.
I see that you are having an issue with the ink being too heavy or still wet on the photos.
Here is a document that deals with the issues you are having as well as a few extra steps. Please click the following link on
Ink Smears or Is Sticky on Printed Photo.
If the troubleshooting does not help resolve your issue, I would then suggest calling HP's Technical Support to see about further options for you. If you are calling within North America, the number is 1-800-474-6836 and for all other regions, click here: click here.
Thanks for your time.
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Color Settings Images are too warm and light while editing

Can someone help me understand color settings in Photoshop. My images look much lighter and warmer when I edit them than when I export them using Save for Web.
For a while I though it was because I was importing a raw file with a different color depth and profile so when it got saved as a jpg that the colors and brightness would shift. Recently, I made a graphic in Photoshop and it still looked warmer than the export. I also know temperature is displayed wrong in photoshop because when I create a neutral gray color its too warm. When it's exported using save for web the temperature is shown correctly.
If it was a mis calibrated monitor it would look warm all of the time. I'm using Photoshop CS3, my color profile is sRGB with color management turned off (its off because espon recommends this setting because it can better manage colors). Although I tried changing these settings and they don't seem to make a difference. Here's neutral gray image with screen caps to show you what I'm talking about.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/pcofran/test/photoshop-color.jpg

Calibration tools calibrate your monitor to produce colors on screen that will look proper given your room lighting. Think of calibration as being a very precise, accurate adjustment to the contrast, brightness, and RGB controls of your monitor. Obviously, if these controls are set differently, your images will view differently. Calibration results in the monitor being set properly for display of images at a known gamma. You can get fairly good, but not totally accurate, calibration visually, without a colorimeter, using appropriate software tools.
Calibration tools also produce a profile that allows color managed software, such as Photoshop, to adjust its output for very precise reproduction within the gamut of your display. Again, there are some tools that produce a profile visually, but you get better results with a colorimeter.
Why should this be necessary? You want to display your images with the intended colors. You also want the proper colors to be sent to your printer or the files on your website. If your monitor isn't properly calibrated and profiled, pixels from the image file that are, say, light gray (RGB 200,200,200) might appear as middle gray, near-white, or even tinged with red or blue. If you adjust the colors in the image file so it displays the way you want it, the pixels in the file will no longer be light gray and will display as something else entirely on a different monitor, when printed, or when viewed at a website.

Color Settings: Getting colors in PS CC to match colors of the image when used as a Windows Background

or vice versa. I probably do not know enough to be able to ask the question properly.
The colors of photos in PS CC are not the same when used as a desktop background in Windows 7. The colors are somewhat more saturated when as a background on the desktop and while not totally unusable, it would be nice to have matching color between my PS editing screen and the photo as viewed as a desktop background.
The following are some conditions that may or may not be relevant to the answer of my following question.
1.) I am a complete novice to Color Management so a presumption of knowledge and the heavy use of jargon may not penetrate my head.
2.) I shoot with sRGB embedded in my photos.
3.) My RAW conversions use sRGB IEC61966 - 2.1.
4.) My PS Color Settings are North American General Purpose 2 with sRGB IEC61966 - 2.1 as the working space and Intent as Relative Colormetric
5.) In the Win 7 Control Panel>Color Management>Device, my Device = NEC LCD2690wuxi, ICC Profile = NEC LCD2690wuxi (default), file name = nl269wui.icm
6.) In the Win 7 Control Panel>Color Management>Advanced, Device profile = System Default sRGB IEC61966 - 2.1 and (everything else set to System Defaults too). The only difference from the PS Color Settings being that Windows is defaulted to Perceptual Intent, but a change in either PS or Win 7 has no effect on the relative color differences.
7.) The monitor is set to the Native internal preset, but the relative differences in color remain the same even if the monitor is changed to sRGB, or any other internal preset.
8.) I have Proof Setup set to Monitor RGB but none of the settings will match the Win 7 Background color.
Now, my question is this. How would you set up your color settings/profile in PS and/or Windows to match color between PS and the Windows desktop of Windows 7?

Nevermind. I didn't have Proof Colors checked.

Please help with correct color settings

I'm using ID CC. Depending on which one, my printers want my final PDFs either as PDF/x-1a (I know what it does in terms of flattening) or PDF/x-4.
I need all color images to wind up as CMYK regardless of what they were when placed. I need all 100%K blacks to stay that way and not get converted to a rich black.
Presently, my document color settings are as follows:
Settings: North America General Purpose 2
Working Spaces:
RGB: sRGB IE61966-2.1
CMYK U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2
Color Management Policies:
RGB: Preserve Embedded Profiles
CMYK: Preserve Numbers (Ignore LInked Profiles)
Conversion Options:
Engine: Adobe (ACE)
Intent: Relative Colorimetric
I use the default settings for either PDF/x-1a or PDF/x-4 (plus having ink manager convert all spots to process) and and always receive a yellow warning triangle with the following warning under general:
The preset specifies source profiles that don't match the current color settings file. Profiles specified by the color settings file will be used.
What do I need to check in my document color settings to avoid that error message (the resulting files do seem to be correct for what I need; just want to make sure I've set it right in terms of that error). Of course, any other thoughts are always appreciated too.
Also, what should my document color settings be if the final document will be black & white (grayscale) and only contains data on the black plate?

Peter Spier wrote:
That warning is normal and nothing to worry about. It just means your document color settings don't match the preset, and the document settings will be used, which you want.
But the other part of your post that IS bothersome is that by definition PDF/X-4 does not convert colors, and it preserves embedded profiles, so that color conversion can be done at the RIP. There's no way that's compatible with "I need all color images to wind up as CMYK regardless of what they were when placed."
Thank you. I had just begun testing PDF/X-4 at the insistence of people here that it was the way to go. Then it looks like for these jobs wehre I must wind up with everything as CMYK I should continue using PDF/x1-a which does do that and which I've used for that in the past.
What about for work that is all b/w (grayscale)? Any advice on settings for that?

Total Ink Density too high

We have a customer who likes to use a dark maroon color over dark background areas, using multiply to enhance the image visually. The problem is that since the transparency setting is 'multiply', The total ink density is around 350 or in some cases 380. Is there another transparency setting to use or anything else to get the same effect without causing such ink saturation?
Thanks!

You can set up a custom preflight profile. You have to go through the billion of options in the "user defined check-ups" (I'm not sure about the english name). The search box should be of help. Somewhere further down the list are some examples of TAC-check-ups (also not sure about that term and if it is used this way in acrobat: total amount of color). And of course you can modify the settings.
Cheers,
Alex

Color settings issue

I am using CS3 under Vista Ultimate.
I'd be grateful for help with a couple of problems:
1. When I customise my color settings the customisarion is not sticking - that is, when I save the customisation, close the settings box and reopen it - the settings have returned to North America General Purpose 2. Similarly, if I load a customised setting it has always reverted to North American General Purpose 2 when I next look at the color settings.
2. For reasons I don't understand, recent photos have started to look over saturated with a blue shift when I Save (them) For The Web. My work is all for the internet and my workflow is all sRGB. That's why I am surprised by the colour problem. It's definitely something to do with the colour profile of the photo I am working on - when I take photos I have worked on a few weeks ago there is no colour shift when I Save for Web. I have converted the problem photo to sRGB but that has not solved the problem. I know I'm doing something dumb but I can't work out what it is or how to rescue the photo I have been working on.
Thanks for any help.
David

I spoke too soon.
The impermanent color settings have returned.
The reinstall did not solve the problem. Whenever I open the Colour Settings box the settings are all back to the North America General Purpose 2 profile.
I have contacted Adobe tech support who replied that it was not a technical problem but a usage problem (pilot error). At my request they had another look at the issue and have replied:
"Try to resett the preferences as you can see in the following doc.
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb400950
if preferences did not solver your issue, create a new admin account and try to recreate the problem in the new admin account."
I have tried resetting the preferences a number of times and that did not work. I will create a new admin account as suggested but I am not hopeful that this will solve the problem.

Dual monitor color settings seems to be messed up cs4

Hi
My daughter has this setup
AMD 9550 quad 2.2mhz machine, Windows 7 ultimate. latest updates
ATI Radeon HD 5700 gpu card (latest driver)
Two LCD monitors
          1. LG 2361V HDMI (main)
          2. Cintiq 21UX (Extended)
Both monitors are calibrated, and have the latest driver updates. It does not matter which monitor is the main one.
PS cs4 also has the
1. If i load a photo in fireworks and drag the application back and forth accross the two monitors, the image looks virtually identical.
2. If i load the same photo in PS (cs4 11.0.1) and do the same, the image looks perfect in the LG but immediately darkens when on the Cintiq.
          a. The darkening is not instantanious. It looks good for about one second before it changes.
          b. If I hover the image between the two monitors, then the darkening only is applied to half of the image.
3. If i change the preferences to not "color match" (in the performance->open GL) then the image does not darken and it remains loyal to the color profile in place. But!!!! the navigator and color selection tools remain darkened while on the Cintiq. So if she chooses a color from the tool, it paints a different color on the canvas.
          a. If I modify the color settings, then the modification affects both monitors display and the difference issue does not go away.
Ideally we want to be able to select a color from the palette and have that color be what is painted onto the canvas. We also want the image to appear as similar as they do in fireworks.
While Color Matching is checked:
On the cheaper monitor, the image and the navigation pane always has the same color appearance. when i change the color profile, the change is reflected in both the canvas and the navigation pane.
The same is true on the Centiq, but the image and navigation pane is always darker than on the other monitor.
While Color Matching is UNchecked:
The color selection tool and the navigation panel are affected but the canvas is not. But the two monitors canvases match.
So. in order for the navigation and color selction tool to match the canvas, the color matching needs to be checked.
But this creates the darkening on the cintiq. No matter what profile i choose, the cintiq is too dark. and photoshop is doing it because fireworks does not do this.
How can i set it up so that all the colors are true to the profile, and match the nav and color tools?
Thank you
Any ideas will be appreciated.
Jerry C

Thanks
@Noel
It sounds as if the monitors are using two quite different profiles, which may indicate the calibration is off a good bit on one of them and the profile was generated to compensate. The clue here is that you see a change when you move a document from one to the other, and that temporarily (while an image crosses both monitors) you see quite a difference in it.
If you drag an image in a non-color-managed application across both monitors, so that specifically part of it is shown on one and part on the other, how different do they look?
Using fireworks or MSpaint or IExplore, an image looks pretty much exactly the same on either monitor as well as when spanning accross both.
The two monitors are clibrated so that all colors match on both monitors.
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
The Cintiq has a better contrast ratio so the whites are slightly brighter.
But!!! If the moitors were not calibrated, then a fireworks image would look different on each screen. In fact they look exactly the same on both.
Even when the image spans accross the two screens.
It is only Photoshop that darkens the part of the image that hangs onto the Cintiq. And it is very dark.
Even in the famed "Monitor mode", the image is much darker than is is in IIE or MSPaint or Fireworks.
I dont want to disable the color profiling, as it is important to see what the target will look like.
But i do want to see what the target will look like! right now it is way to dark. No matter what profile i choose.
Also my examples are more to demonstrate the comparrison between the two monitors, but the goal is to get PS CS4 to work on the centiq. It would be nice to have the navigator and some panels on the other monitor and have the colors match, but more important is to have the colors on the cintiq look normal at all!
Thanks so far. but we are still messed up.
Jerry C

Color settings between the Mini and Dell monitor

I got my new Mac Mini Intel Solo yesterday and hooked it up to my Dell 20" widescreen flat-panel. As soon as my screen popped up, the color scheme was waaaay off. It was too red. So I messed with all different kinds of color settings on the monitor itself and then tried to calibrate the monitor through OS X. Nothing worked and I couldn't get the settings right. Can someone help me? Is there a standard setting that works or is there a site I can go to with a bunch of different color settings I can try? It's really frustrating!!!
Thanks in advance for any help!

What exactly do you mean by "the color scheme was waaaay off"?
The general setup of you display should be…
1) Display internal setting to default with the Colour Setting set to either PC Standard Preset or Mac Standard Preset (I found the Mac preset somewhat warmer/redder than the PC) and the Brightness set to your liking.
2) Mac OS X set to use the DELL 2005FPW (or whatever is the default colour profile that matches your model) in the Displays System Preference.
This will work for most people.

Color Settings CS3 Mac for CMYK Commercial Print

Can somebody advise me as too what I should be setting my color settings to so they will be the same across the suite and when I send my files to commercial print that prints CMYK sheet fed coated.
I've read so much I'm confused. I'm new to CS3 and the Mac ... In the past my work has come back perfect in color and matched to my monitor. Now on CS3 on the Mac I'm not sure what to do.
If anyone can help it would be most appreciated.

Charlene wrote:
> Marco ... I read your post on rGB / CMYK conversion
Which one was that, if you could remind me?
>I work through a print broker that prints CMYK and the only thing he can tell me is that they print CMYK and on sheet fed coated.
Well, yes, print is always CMYK. As for "sheetfed coated", I would assume that they intend a color space like the one described by the U.S. Sheetfed Coated v2 profile (though it could possibly be the GRACoL2006_Coated1v2 profile). You may want to ask them to confirm one or the other, to be safer.
>So my question is di turn everything to CMYK on my monitor and change to sheet fed coated in the settings?
To make sure I understand your question, I think you are asking me whether you should turn your image file(s) to a chosen CMYK output profile. Yes and no. You should do your color and tonal correction work
b in RGB
, and convert to the intended CMYK output profile
b only as a last step
, just before you deliver the files to the print provider or the prepress specialists.
Do
b not
convert your files to the intended CMYK output profile in the beginning and correct them in CMYK. Do not do that. That is not the most desirable way to work.
The default working spaces in Photoshop's Color Settings are important, but not essential. Yes, you should set the default RGB profile to AdobeRGB (if not ProPhoto RGB, though you may wish to hold off on that one until you have more experience with the application), and the CMYK default profile to U.S. Sheetfed Coated v2.
But, as long as your chosen color management policies are to "Preserve Embedded Profiles", and as long as the image files you work on are tagged with the appropriate profile, then the default profile in Color Settings is no longer relevant.

Consistent Color Settings in Aperture & PS for Best Looking Book

I would like to get input from the users on this forum on how best to keep the color profiles consistent, from shooting, to image editing in Aperture and in Photoshop CS2 and finally, to get the best looking Aperture hardcover book.
Here are the settings that I am using:
Canon 10D DSLR camera, using standard "parameter" setting for large JPEG: sRGB
Apple Cinema Display 30": profiled using GretagMacbeth (Xrite) Eye One Color, with gamma at 2.2 and D65 Kelvin temperature setting.
Aperture>View Menu>Proofing Profile: sRGB IEC91966-2.1
Aperture Screen Profiling Enabled.
External Editor-Photoshop CS2 Working Color Space: Edit Menu>Color Settings: Working Space:
RGB = sRGB IEC61966-2.1
CMYK: U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2
Gray: Gray gamma 2.2
Spot: Dot gain 20%
And here is my question. After selecting a JPEG photo that is embedded with sRGB profile from within Aperture, I select "external editor" (Photoshop CS2) for further image editing. When I do that, Photoshop dialog box "Embedded Profile Mismatch" opens up and states,
Embedded: sRGB Profile
Working: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
It asks me to make a selection:
1. Use the embedded profile (instead of Working Space)
2. Convert document's color to the working space.
3. Discard the embedded profile (do't color manage).
I've been selecting #1...."Use embedded profile".
So, now that I am nearing the point of putting a Aperture book together, I'm wondering if I have created a problem for myself when my "working color space" is sRGB IEC61966-2.1 and my embedded color profile in the JPEGs are sRGB.
When I did a test sample when the "Profile Mismtach" window came up, I selected "Convert document's color to the working space" and I could not tell the color difference on my Apple Cinema Display.
Also, when I looked at the metadata on the "converted photo", it still had the sRGB profile and not "sRGB IEC61966-2,1".
Should I worry about this mismatch between what are embedded on my JPEGs and my working color space on my Apple Cinema Display?
Should I NOT use sRGB IEC61966-2.1 proofing (Aperture) and color setting (Photoshop) profile. Instead, stick with sRGB on both settings? Or does it matter....I cannot tell the difference with my brief test.
I realize that from reading other posts, Apple does not have a ICC profile for the book companies that print for Apple. Also, I've read about in this forum about the "Average McCoy Gloss Profile" but I'm not sure if anyone has used this using Aperture1.5 and that posting is now closed. Furthermore, I've read somewhere that Apple uses the RGB profiles for book printing, not CMYK. Thank you.
Takashi
PM G5 Dual 2.5Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.6) 4 GB RAM;
PM G5 Dual 2.5Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.6) 4 GB RAM;

Welcome to the forum.
First off, you need to go and buy a hardware monitor calibrator, such as an OptixXR or similar. This will build a custom monitor profile for your specific screen. Without this starting point you can forget ANY attempt at accurate colour matching.
Never (and I mean never) use a working space such as sRGB or Adobe98 as your monitor profile, that's not what they are designed for. Working spaces control what colours are possible in the image, monitor profiles control how those colours are shown on screen. Aperture uses it's own working space so you don't have to worry about that too much.
To answer the rest far too briefly, I'd suggest setting the proofing profile to sRGB and of course use sRGB for the export preset. The gamma setting you will have to adjust depending on how dark the Lightjet prints look compared to your screen. You will have to do test-strips to start with.
Your images looking crap on flickr on Windows machines is partly because Windows web browsers generally do NO colour correction, and only partly to do with the different gamma.
Ian

How to permanently save the color settings in terminal.app

Hi,
I have configured the "ls" command in the terminal.app to give colored outputs. However, I realised that for some reason the color-set used is designed for a light-colored background. When I use "white on black", the default blue color of the directories is almost invisible.
Of course, I can change this to another color, but this problem is true for all "blue" fonts, so for example, the default color for comments in vim is also blue and thus unreadable with black background.
This is not a problem when I use the xterm in X11. The color set there is much lighter and is perfect for a black backgound.
By drag-and-drop method (drag the chosen color on top of the directory texts in terminal), I am able to alter the blue color to a much lighter version. This apparently changes all fonts that is blue (this includes for example vim comments), and is exactly what I wanted. But I cannot figure out a way to save this as default. Clicking "Save setting as default" button in the inspector does nothing, the new terminal window still gives you this dark blue.
Anyone know how do I do this?
Cheers,
Lianheng

Hi Nils,
Thanks for the replies.
I think I see what the problem is: basically the colors in the terminal are darker than that of the xterm in X11. This can be clearly seen from the vim. May be this is to do with the fact that apple terminal.app has a "better" color support?
I quite like the default LSCOLORS settings, which is:
LSCOLORS=exfxcxdxcxegedabagacad
The color settings in X11 is just perfect for me at the moment. It would be so much nicer if I can make the color scheme in terminal.app look like that of the X11. If say, I change LSCOLORS to
LSCOLORS=gxfxcxdxcxegedabagacad
and change the color schemes in vim to a lighter theme, but this will effect the colors in X11 too, which is perfect now. Cyan will look too light in X11.
At the first I thought by drag and dropping the colors into terminal it will alter its color map. So my question was actually how can one (if it is possible) change the color map of the terminal.app, so that it inteprets the ANSI "blue" slightly differently.
By the way, the way that you can see all colors in vim is really neat! Thanks for that tip.
Cheers,
Lianheng

Color Settings and Making Photos Pop

I have to preface this with saying that I am a recent convert from Nikon Capture/Photoshop/PC world to the 2.8 24" iMac. I shoot entirely Nikon raw (NEF) and typically just tweak white balance, exposure, and color settings in post processing.
With that said... I have been trying to define my new workflow and have decided iPhoto isn't doing it, so I switched over to Aperture. I really like the app, but am having serious issues tuning the color in the images; specifically, I tweak them on the imac and they look beautiful, but typically look too "light" and nowhere near as brilliant on any other computer. I have calibrated the display with OS X built-in color tool (through Display... Colors), but am way to amateur to go and buy a real calibration tool.
Is this something stupid that I am (or am not) doing? Whatever I am missing is driving me nuts as the pictures just aren't as good as they used to be on the PC...
tia,
Bill

First, it's absolutely impossible to accurately profile a display without a hardware calibrator. The eyeball, in its adjustability, is also your biggest enemy. If you ever intend to print (or send your photos to a lab to get prints), then doing this without hardware calibration will be a waste of your money.
That said, if the images are looking flat (and not-so-contrasty) on your Mac, check the gamma setting. You want 2.2 gamma rather than the default 1.8 "Mac" gamma. The latter is an anachronism and should not be used unless you specifically have a need for it dating from the 1980's in the print industry

Color settings grayed out in Print Settings

Photoshop CS5 v12.1.
Mac OS 10.6.
I'm printing to an Epson R1800 printer.
Print. Choose Color Management. Choose Document. Choose "Photoshop manages color". Choose the correct printer profile that matches the paper I'm using. Choose Relative Colorimetric.
THEN, I click Print Settings...under the 4th drop downu I choose "Print setting..." again. Under "Basic" "color" and "Color settings" are grayed out as are some of the "Media Type" options.
Is this normal? The problem is my black and white prints are printing really badly. They have color tones. I've cleaned the nozzles on my Epson printer, done everything the print utility suggests. All the test prints look fine.
I'm at a loss. Am I missing something obvious?

I see you haven't gotten much input so far from the Mac experts...
As a Windows user without an Epson printer myself, I can't comment on why you might have color problems under the covers where the software doesn't seem to be following the chosen settings. However, perhaps I can get you thinking about how to further diagnose the problem...
The obvious thing I see is that you've chosen "Photoshop Manages Colors" in the main dialog, which implies your intent is to shut off color-management in the printer driver itself. So to me the graying out of those settings in this case seems to make sense.
Have you tried a test print using the "Printer Manages Colors" setting?
Also, to try to test whether color-management isn't being turned off in the printer (regardless of what the grayed-out settings show), do you see any improvement if you use "Photoshop Manages Colors" but choose a standard profile, such as sRGB IEC61966-2.1 for the Printer Profile setting?
-Noel

Color settings in viewer and canvas?

Have been experimenting with some custom presets of the Canon XH A1.
After importing in FCP the footage seemed very colorful -- mostly much warmer.
Played the same clips in quicktime and they looked completely different, much more nuanced, natural and as intended.
Is there a way to change the color settings of the viewer and the canvas in FCP?
thanks
KC

#49 - Quicktime movie lighter than what I see in FCP.
Shane's Stock Answer #49 - Why is the Quicktime Movie I made much lighter than what I see in my timeline in FCP?
Because it is designed to be bright enough to be seen on most monitors, some that might be too dark. But, if you want to see the same image you see in your FCP timeline, just open Quicktime, and in the Quicktime Player's preferences window under the General tab you can choose to Enable Final Cut Studio color compatibility.
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