Instance no. for additonal dialog instances

Hi,
We currently have '00' as our Central Instance no., '01' is our SCS instance no.
We plan to install two more additonal dialog instances connecting to this central instance on separate servers.
Is there a best practice for instance nos. on the dialog instances.?
Should they be same 00 (as our central instance) or does this matter at all? Should they be unique across the portal landscape?
Any help will be appreciated.
Best Regards,

Hi,
the instance no does not matter in your scenario. It must only be unique per (physical) server as it defines the TCP ports that are used by the SAP instance. E.g. if you have two portal intallations on one server, its instance no.s must be different. If on separate servers, they can be identical. The latter also applies for additional dialog instances on separate servers.
The only thing that you need to keep unique across your (complete!) SAP landscape is the 3 letter SID.
Regards,
Dominik

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trc file: "dev_disp", trc level: 1, release: "700"
sysno 03
sid P02
systemid 562 (PC with Windows NT)
relno 7000
patchlevel 0
patchno 75
intno 20050900
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pid 3216
Wed Nov 22 12:32:40 2006
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 shared lib "dw_xml.dll" version 75 successfully loaded
 shared lib "dw_xtc.dll" version 75 successfully loaded
 shared lib "dw_stl.dll" version 75 successfully loaded
 shared lib "dw_gui.dll" version 75 successfully loaded
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rdisp/softcancel_sequence : -> 0,5,-1
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MtxInit: 30000 0 0
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ERROR => W1 (pid 1112) died [dpxxdisp.c 14241]
ERROR => W2 (pid 1856) died [dpxxdisp.c 14241]
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increase tracelevel of WPs
NiWait: sleep (10000ms) ...
NiISelect: timeout 10000ms
NiISelect: maximum fd=569
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NiISelect: write-mask is NULL
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Workprocess Table (long) Wed Nov 22 04:33:59 2006
========================
No Ty. Pid Status Cause Start Err Sem CPU Time Program Cl User Action Table
0 DIA 1100 Ended no 1 0 0
1 DIA 1112 Ended no 1 0 0
2 DIA 1856 Ended no 1 0 0
3 DIA 576 Ended no 1 0 0
4 BTC 1368 Ended no 1 0 0
5 SPO 1108 Ended no 1 0 0
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===========================
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+
Typ
now
high
max
writes
reads
--------++++--
+
NOWP
0
2
2000
6
6
--------++++--
+
DIA
5
5
2000
5
0
--------++++--
+
UPD
0
0
2000
0
0
--------++++--
+
ENQ
0
0
2000
0
0
--------++++--
+
BTC
0
0
2000
0
0
--------++++--
+
SPO
0
0
2000
0
0
--------++++--
+
UP2
0
0
2000
0
0
--------++++--
+
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=========================
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=============================
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--------++--
+
id
owner
pid
eyecatcher
--------++--
+
0
DISPATCHER
-1
WPCAAD000
NiWait: sleep (5000ms) ...
NiISelect: timeout 5000ms
NiISelect: maximum fd=569
NiISelect: read-mask is NULL
NiISelect: write-mask is NULL
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wait for end of work processes
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NiWait: sleep (1000ms) ...
NiISelect: timeout 1000ms
NiISelect: maximum fd=569
NiISelect: read-mask is NULL
NiISelect: write-mask is NULL
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NiWait: sleep (1000ms) ...
NiISelect: timeout 1000ms
NiISelect: maximum fd=569
NiISelect: read-mask is NULL
NiISelect: write-mask is NULL
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NiWait: sleep (1000ms) ...
NiISelect: timeout 1000ms
NiISelect: maximum fd=569
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NiISelect: maximum fd=569
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NiWait: sleep (1000ms) ...
NiISelect: timeout 1000ms
NiISelect: maximum fd=569
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NiISelect: write-mask is NULL
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NiISelect: maximum fd=569
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NiISelect: write-mask is NULL
Wed Nov 22 12:34:13 2006
NiISelect: TIMEOUT occured (1000ms)
[DpProcDied] Process lives (PID:748 HANDLE:544)
waiting for termination of icman ...
NiWait: sleep (1000ms) ...
NiISelect: timeout 1000ms
NiISelect: maximum fd=569
NiISelect: read-mask is NULL
NiISelect: write-mask is NULL
Wed Nov 22 12:34:14 2006
NiISelect: TIMEOUT occured (1000ms)
[DpProcDied] Process lives (PID:748 HANDLE:544)
waiting for termination of icman ...
NiWait: sleep (1000ms) ...
NiISelect: timeout 1000ms
NiISelect: maximum fd=569
NiISelect: read-mask is NULL
NiISelect: write-mask is NULL
Wed Nov 22 12:34:15 2006
NiISelect: TIMEOUT occured (1000ms)
[DpProcDied] Process lives (PID:748 HANDLE:544)
waiting for termination of icman ...
NiWait: sleep (1000ms) ...
NiISelect: timeout 1000ms
NiISelect: maximum fd=569
NiISelect: read-mask is NULL
NiISelect: write-mask is NULL
Wed Nov 22 12:34:16 2006
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[DpProcDied] Process died (PID:748 HANDLE:544)
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DpConvertRequest: net size = 189 bytes
NiBufSend starting
NiIWrite: hdl 2 sent data (wrt=562,pac=1,MESG_IO)
MsINiWrite: sent 562 bytes
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DpStartStopMsg: stop msg sent to message server o.k.
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NiBufIIn: NIBUF len=274
NiBufIIn: packet complete for hdl 2
NiBufReceive starting
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NiIRead: hdl 2 received data (rcd=274,pac=1,MESG_IO)
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NiBufIIn: packet complete for hdl 2
NiBufReceive starting
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NiIRead: hdl 2 received data (rcd=274,pac=1,MESG_IO)
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NiBufIIn: packet complete for hdl 2
NiBufReceive starting
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NiBufIIn: packet complete for hdl 2
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SiSelNRemove: removed sock 548
NiSelIRemove: removed hdl 2
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M patchno 75
M intno 20050900
M make: multithreaded, ASCII, 64 bit, optimized
M pid 1100
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M length of sys_adm_ext is 360 bytes
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M DpSysAdmExtCreate: ABAP is active
M DpSysAdmExtCreate: VMC (JAVA VM in WP) is not active
M DpShMCreate: sizeof(wp_adm) 5376 (896)
M DpShMCreate: sizeof(tm_adm) 4663200 (23200)
M DpShMCreate: sizeof(wp_ca_adm) 18000 (60)
M DpShMCreate: sizeof(appc_ca_adm) 6000 (60)
M DpCommTableSize: max/headSize/ftSize/tableSize=500/16/552048/552064
M DpShMCreate: sizeof(comm_adm) 552064 (1088)
M DpFileTableSize: max/headSize/ftSize/tableSize=0/0/0/0
M DpShMCreate: sizeof(file_adm) 0 (72)
M DpShMCreate: sizeof(vmc_adm) 0 (1496)
M DpShMCreate: sizeof(wall_adm) (25648/36736/64/104)
M DpShMCreate: sizeof(gw_adm) 48
M DpShMCreate: SHM_DP_ADM_KEY (addr: 000000000DDA0050, size: 5314128)
M DpShMCreate: allocated sys_adm at 000000000DDA0050
M DpShMCreate: allocated wp_adm at 000000000DDA1AB0
M DpShMCreate: allocated tm_adm_list at 000000000DDA2FB0
M DpShMCreate: allocated tm_adm at 000000000DDA3010
M DpShMCreate: allocated wp_ca_adm at 000000000E2157B0
M DpShMCreate: allocated appc_ca_adm at 000000000E219E00
M DpShMCreate: allocated comm_adm at 000000000E21B570
M DpShMCreate: system runs without file table
M DpShMCreate: allocated vmc_adm_list at 000000000E2A21F0
M DpShMCreate: allocated gw_adm at 000000000E2A2270
M DpShMCreate: system runs without vmc_adm
M DpShMCreate: allocated ca_info at 000000000E2A22A0
M DpShMCreate: allocated wall_adm at 000000000E2A22B0
X EmInit: MmSetImplementation( 2 ).
X MM global diagnostic options set: 0
X <ES> client 0 initializing ....
X Using implementation flat
M <EsNT> Memory Reset disabled as NT default
X ES initialized.
M ThInit: running on host AP2
M
M Wed Nov 22 12:33:10 2006
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C Prepending E:\usr\sap\P02\D03\exe to Path.
M call semaphore clean-up function ...
M ***LOG Q0E=> DpSigGenHandler, Exception (c06d007e) [dpnttool.c 432]
M -
C-STACK -
SAP (R) - R/3(TM) Callstack, Version 1.0
Copyright (C) SAP AG. All rights reserved.
Application exception occurred:
Exception : c06d007e (Unknown exception)
App : disp+work.EXE (pid=1100)
When : 11/22/2006 12:33:14.515
Threads : 2
Computer Name : AP2
User Name : SAPServiceP02
Number of Processors: 4
Processor Type: EM64T Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6
Windows Version : 5.2 Current Build: 3790
State Dump for Thread Id 440
--> (FAULT) Stack Back Trace <--
FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Function Name
000000000678f720 00000000078488ca 0000000000000003 kernel32!PulseEvent
000000000678f7f0 0000000007847fe6 0000000007926000 dboraslib!__delayLoadHelper2 [delayhlp.cpp (271)]
000000000678f860 00000000078136cd 000000000678f8b0 dboraslib!_tailMerge_OCI_dll
000000000678f8c0 000000000782f3d8 0000003d00000000 dboraslib!get_oci_client_version [dboci.c (2766)]
000000000678fa90 0000000001182107 000000000678fd80 dboraslib!DbSlConnect [dbsloci.c (1835)]
000000000678fce0 000000000118251e 0000000000000000 disp+work!open_con [dbcon.c (3582)]
000000000678fd50 00000000011856de 00000000ffffffff disp+work!supply_con [dbcon.c (3830)]
000000000678fd90 000000000117826c 0000000000000001 disp+work!dbsl_connect [dbslxxx.c (232)]
000000000678fdf0 00000000004ca16a 000000000755476c disp+work!db_connect [dblink.c (422)]
000000000678fe80 00000000004cf609 0000000006d6bdfd disp+work!ThInit [thxxhead.c (1404)]
000000000678feb0 000000000042c9e6 ffffffff00000002 disp+work!ThStart [thxxhead.c (1114)]
000000000678fee0 0000000000401097 ffffffff00000003 disp+work!DpMain [dpxxdisp.c (1119)]
000000000678ff10 00000000018919c1 0000000000000000 disp+work!nlsui_main [thxxanf.c (82)]
000000000678ff70 0000000078d5965c 0000000000000000 disp+work!mainCRTStartup [crtexe.c (501)]
000000000678ffa0 0000000000000000 0000000001891850 kernel32!BaseProcessStart
State Dump for Thread Id c70
--> Stack Back Trace <--
FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Function Name
000000000bd9fe40 0000000078d5f611 0000000006d31460 ntdll!NtFsControlFile
000000000bd9feb0 000000000178a99f 0000000000000000 kernel32!ConnectNamedPipe
000000000bd9ff40 000007ff7fc411c4 0000000000000000 disp+work!SigIMsgFunc [signt.c (595)]
000000000bd9ff70 0000000078d6b66a 0000000078d6b630 msvcrt!endthreadex
000000000bd9ffa0 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 kernel32!BaseThreadStart
M -
M
M Wed Nov 22 12:33:15 2006
M call clean-up function ...
M in_ThErrHandle: 1
M ThSigHandler: signal (step 1, th_errno 11, action 4)
M
M Info for wp 0
M
M stat = 4
M reqtype = 1
M act_reqtype = -1
M rq_info = 0
M tid = -1
M mode = 255
M len = -1
M rq_id = 65535
M rq_source = 255
M last_tid = 0
M last_mode = 0
M semaphore = 0
M act_cs_count = 0
M control_flag = 0
M int_checked_resource(RFC) = 0
M ext_checked_resource(RFC) = 0
M int_checked_resource(HTTP) = 0
M ext_checked_resource(HTTP) = 0
M report = > <
M action = 0
M tab_name = > <
M vm = V-1
M
M *****************************************************************************
M *
M * LOCATION SAP-Server AP2_P02_03 on host AP2 (wp 0)
M * ERROR ThSigHandler: signal
M *
M * TIME Wed Nov 22 12:33:15 2006
M * RELEASE 700
M * COMPONENT Taskhandler
M * VERSION 1
M * RC 11
M * MODULE thxxhead.c
M * LINE 10354
M * COUNTER 1
M *
M *****************************************************************************
M
M PfStatDisconnect: disconnect statistics
M Entering TH_CALLHOOKS
M ThCallHooks: call hook >ThrSaveSPAFields< for event BEFORE_DUMP
M *** ERROR => ThrSaveSPAFields: no valid thr_wpadm [thxxrun1.c 720]
M *** ERROR => ThCallHooks: event handler ThrSaveSPAFields for event BEFORE_DUMP failed [thxxtool3.c 260]
M Entering ThSetStatError
M ThIErrHandle: do not call ThrCoreInfo (no_core_info=0, in_dynp_env=0)
M Entering ThReadDetachMode
M ***LOG Q02=> wp_halt, WPStop (Workproc 0 1100) [dpnttool.c 327]
M return from clean-up function ...
Does anybody has a solution for this problem?
Thank you.

Hi all again,
I had the same problem and found a solution for it.
I made two steps to start the dialog instance successful. First I modified the NLS_LANG setting in the registry and enviroment (only if necessary). Second, I fetched the last Oracle Instant Client OCL10264.sar from SAP Net and extract the file to E:\usr\sap\PDV\SYS\exe\nuc\NTAMD64 (This directory was created through the Installer. The Kernel lies under E:\usr\sap\PDV\D20\exe)
Now I changed the variable DIR_CLIENT_ORAHOME = $(DIR_EXECUTABLE) to
DIR_CLIENT_ORAHOME = E:\usr\sap\PDV\SYS\exe\nuc\NTAMD64 in the Instance Profile of the new Dialog Instance. So the Kernel knows that he has to use the Oracle Instance Client and the profilevariable says where he found it.
After these modifications the Dialog Instance starts with success.
With kind regards
Thomas Espenhain

WAS 6.40 Dialog Instance Installation

Hi,
I am installing a dialog instance for our WAS 6.40 JAVA on Win 2003 with ORacle DB. During the installation I get the following error.
ERROR 2006-02-22 15:19:50
CJS-20058 J2EE Engine J01 of SAP system EPD did not reach state "Starting Applications" after 1154 seconds: giving up.
The is no special arguments for a dialog instance installation in documentation. So I did run SAPINST and selected dialog instance installation. Is something missing?
Regards
Following errors exist in log files.
dev_jcmon
[Thr 5348] *** ERROR => Can't attach to administration shared memory (rc=3) [jcmonxx.c    219]
Error occurred during initialization of VM
Could not reserve enough space for object heap
in dev_jcontrol
[Thr 1712] *** ERROR => Invalid property value [en.host/temepdev] [jstartxx.c   789]
[Thr 1712] *** ERROR => Invalid property value [en.port/3201] [jstartxx.c   789]
dev_icmon
[Thr 1468] *** ERROR => Can't attach to administration shared memory (rc=3) [jcmonxx.c    219]
Message was edited by: sez yigit

Hi,
This is content of instance.properties file.
ID6181900.ClassPath=./bin/boot/boot.jar:./bin/system/bytecode.jar:.
ID6181900.Debuggable=no
ID6181900.JLaunchParameters=
ID6181900.JavaParameters=-Djava.security.policy=./java.policy -Djava.security.egd=file:/dev/urandom -Djco.jarm=1 -XX:NewSize=28m -XX:MaxNewSize=28m -Xms170m -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -Drdbms.driverLocation=D:/usr/sap/EPD/J00/j2ee/classes12.jar
ID6181900.JavaPath=C:/j2sdk1.4.2_08
ID6181900.LogName=dispatcher
ID6181900.MainClass=com.sap.engine.boot.Start
ID6181900.MaxHeapSize=170
ID6181900.Name=dispatcher
ID6181900.Parameters=
ID6181900.RootPath=D:/usr/sap/EPD/J00/j2ee/cluster/dispatcher
ID6181900.Type=dispatcher
ID6181950.ClassPath=./bin/boot/boot.jar:./bin/boot/jaas.jar:./bin/system/bytecode.jar:.
ID6181950.DebugMode=no
ID6181950.DebugPort=50021
ID6181950.Debuggable=no
ID6181950.JLaunchParameters=
ID6181950.JavaParameters=-Djava.security.policy=./java.policy -Djava.security.egd=file:/dev/urandom -Dorg.omg.CORBA.ORBClass=com.sap.engine.system.ORBProxy -Dorg.omg.CORBA.ORBSingletonClass=com.sap.engine.system.ORBSingletonProxy -Djavax.rmi.CORBA.PortableRemoteObjectClass=com.sap.engine.system.PortableRemoteObjectProxy -Dorg.xml.sax.driver=com.sap.engine.lib.xml.parser.SAXParser -Djco.jarm=1 -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:NewSize=85M -XX:MaxNewSize=85M -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -Djava.awt.headless=true -XX:PermSize=192m -XX:SurvivorRatio=2 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:SoftRefLRUPolicyMSPerMB=1 -Xms512M -verbose:gc -XX:DisableExplicitGC -XX:PrintGCDetails -XX:PrintGCTimeStamps -XX:UseParNewGC -Djco.jarm=1 -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:NewSize=170m -XX:MaxNewSize=170m -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -Djava.awt.headless=true -XX:PermSize=192m -XX:SurvivorRatio=2 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:SoftRefLRUPolicyMSPerMB=1 -Xms1024m -verbose:gc -XX:DisableExplicitGC -XX:PrintGCDetails -XX:PrintGCTimeStamps -XX:UseParNewGC -Djco.jarm=1 -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:NewSize=341m -XX:MaxNewSize=341m -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -Djava.awt.headless=true -XX:PermSize=192m -XX:SurvivorRatio=2 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:SoftRefLRUPolicyMSPerMB=1 -Xms2048m -verbose:gc -XX:DisableExplicitGC -XX:PrintGCDetails -XX:PrintGCTimeStamps -XX:UseParNewGC -Djco.jarm=1 -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:NewSize=682m -XX:MaxNewSize=682m -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -Djava.awt.headless=true -XX:PermSize=192m -XX:SurvivorRatio=2 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:SoftRefLRUPolicyMSPerMB=1 -Xms4096m -verbose:gc -XX:DisableExplicitGC -XX:PrintGCDetails -XX:PrintGCTimeStamps -XX:UseParNewGC -Djco.jarm=1 -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:NewSize=341m -XX:MaxNewSize=341m -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -Djava.awt.headless=true -XX:PermSize=192m -XX:SurvivorRatio=2 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:SoftRefLRUPolicyMSPerMB=1 -Xms2048m -verbose:gc -XX:DisableExplicitGC -XX:PrintGCDetails -XX:PrintGCTimeStamps -XX:UseParNewGC -Djco.jarm=1 -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:NewSize=170m -XX:MaxNewSize=170m -XX:MaxPermSize=192m -Djava.awt.headless=true -XX:PermSize=192m -XX:SurvivorRatio=2 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:SoftRefLRUPolicyMSPerMB=1 -Xms1024m -verbose:gc -XX:DisableExplicitGC -XX:PrintGCDetails -XX:PrintGCTimeStamps -XX:UseParNewGC -Drdbms.driverLocation=D:/usr/sap/EPD/J00/j2ee/classes12.jar
ID6181950.JavaPath=C:/j2sdk1.4.2_08
ID6181950.LogName=server0
ID6181950.MainClass=com.sap.engine.boot.Start
ID6181950.MaxHeapSize=2048
ID6181950.Name=server0
ID6181950.Parameters=
ID6181950.RootPath=D:/usr/sap/EPD/J00/j2ee/cluster/server0
ID6181950.Type=server
bootstrap.ClassPath=./bootstrap/launcher.jar
bootstrap.JavaParameters=-Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1
bootstrap.JavaPath=C:/j2sdk1.4.2_08
bootstrap.MainClass=com.sap.engine.offline.OfflineToolStart
bootstrap.MaxHeapSize=512
bootstrap.Name=bootstrap
bootstrap.Parameters=com.sap.engine.bootstrap.Bootstrap ./bootstrap ID0061819
bootstrap.RootPath=D:/usr/sap/EPD/J00/j2ee/cluster
bootstrap.Type=bootstrap
bootstrap_ID6181900.ClassPath=./bootstrap/launcher.jar
bootstrap_ID6181900.JLaunchParameters=
bootstrap_ID6181900.JavaParameters=-Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1
bootstrap_ID6181900.JavaPath=C:/j2sdk1.4.2_08
bootstrap_ID6181900.MainClass=com.sap.engine.offline.OfflineToolStart
bootstrap_ID6181900.MaxHeapSize=170
bootstrap_ID6181900.Name=dispatcher bootstrap
bootstrap_ID6181900.Parameters=com.sap.engine.bootstrap.Bootstrap ./bootstrap ID006181900
bootstrap_ID6181900.RootPath=D:/usr/sap/EPD/J00/j2ee/cluster
bootstrap_ID6181900.Type=bootstrap
bootstrap_ID6181950.ClassPath=./bootstrap/launcher.jar
bootstrap_ID6181950.JLaunchParameters=
bootstrap_ID6181950.JavaParameters=-Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1 -Djco.jarm=1
bootstrap_ID6181950.JavaPath=C:/j2sdk1.4.2_08
bootstrap_ID6181950.MainClass=com.sap.engine.offline.OfflineToolStart
bootstrap_ID6181950.MaxHeapSize=2048
bootstrap_ID6181950.Name=server0 bootstrap
bootstrap_ID6181950.Parameters=com.sap.engine.bootstrap.Bootstrap ./bootstrap ID006181950
bootstrap_ID6181950.RootPath=D:/usr/sap/EPD/J00/j2ee/cluster
bootstrap_ID6181950.Type=bootstrap
instance.box.number=EPDJ00temitsprd
instance.en.host=temepdev
instance.en.port=3201
instance.enabled=yes
instance.install.dir=D:\usr\sap\EPD\J00\j2ee
instance.ms.host=temepdev
instance.ms.port=3601
instance.osLibsPath=D:/usr/sap/EPD/J00/j2ee/os_libs
instance.runAction=NONE
instance.runMode=NORMAL
instance.system.id=0
dev_icmon
trc file: "D:\usr\sap\EPD\J00\work\dev_jcmon", trc level: 1, release: "640"
node name   : jcmon
pid         : 2560
system name : EPD
system nr. : 00
started at : Thu Feb 23 10:20:53 2006
arguments   :
    arg[00] : D:\usr\sap/EPD/J00/j2ee/os_libs/jcmon.exe
    arg[01] : pf=
temepdev\sapmnt\EPD\SYS\profile/EPD_J00_temitsprd
[Thr 2084] Thu Feb 23 10:20:53 2006
[Thr 2084] INFO: Unknown property [box.number=EPDJ00temitsprd]
[Thr 2084] INFO: Unknown property [ms.host=temepdev]
[Thr 2084] INFO: Unknown property [ms.port=3601]
[Thr 2084] INFO: Unknown property [system.id=0]
JStartupReadInstanceProperties: read instance properties [D:\usr\sap\EPD\J00\j2ee\cluster\instance.properties]
-> ms host    : temepdev
-> ms port    : 3601
-> OS libs    : D:\usr\sap\EPD\J00\j2ee\os_libs
-> Admin URL :
-> run mode   : NORMAL
-> run action : NONE
-> enabled    : yes
[Thr 2084] *** ERROR => Can't attach to administration shared memory (rc=3) [jcmonxx.c    219]
std_bootstrap_ID6181950.out
stdout/stderr redirect
node name   : server0 bootstrap
pid         : 3304
system name : EPD
system nr. : 00
started at : Thu Feb 23 10:14:16 2006
Error occurred during initialization of VM
Could not reserve enough space for object heap
Failed to reserve 1610612736 (0x60000000) bytes before loading DLLs (error 8).

Installing 620 SAP_BASIS Dialog Instance with 6.40 Installation Master CD

Greetings,
At present we have a SAP R/3 Enterprise 47x200 which is dsitributed across two (windows 2003) clustered servers, one for the Central Instance and other for the Database (Oracle 9.2.0.5).
Now and due to perfomance issues on the Central Instance we'd lke to add a Dialog Instance and here is where the doubts come up.
Our SAP_BASIS version is 620 (System -> Status) whereas our SAP Kernel level is 640_REL (SM51).
We have the original 6.20 Kernel CD but we don't have any valid SAP Installation Master CD (originally we made an upgrade from a 4.6B version) so I downloaded from service.sap.com/support the 51033746_13.ZIP (Installation_Master_6.20_6.40_06_08) file (I didn't found any other file better that this one).
The first problem is that when I start sapinst.exe it ask (CD Browser Dialog) for a SAP 6.40 Kernel CD and not the 6.20 Kernel CD I already have. I have found a workaround editing LABEL.ASC file but I think it isn't a good practice.
If I download the Kernel 6.40 from service.sap.com 51030763_1.ZIP (DVD_NW04_SR1_6.40_SAP_Kernel_Oracle) the Sapinst application works perfectly, but here comes up our doubts...
- Could be any problem using these 6.40 installation (Master Installation & Kernel) files for a Dialog Instance installatio in our environment? Are there other installation files which could fit better than these one? Where could I find them?
- When I install a Dialog Instance, does it make changes into the Database Server and Central Instance?
- Initially we'd like to install the Dialog Instance in a test Server, try it, check that it works as we expect, and discard it in order to buy a big and powerful server where we'll definitely install the Dialog Instance. In this case, can we simply discard the test server or we have to follow a complex process for uninstall it? (this question is somehow related to the previous one).
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Javier

Hi,
it is OK that you have 640 kernel even if your BASIS is 620. 620 kernel is no longer supported by SAP.
- Could be any problem using these 6.40 installation (Master Installation & Kernel) files for a Dialog Instance installatio in our environment? Are there other installation files which could fit better than these one? Where could I find them?
You master DVD is correct
- When I install a Dialog Instance, does it make changes into the Database Server and Central Instance?
It does not make any changes to DB, you will see next Dialog instance in SM51 then
- Initially we'd like to install the Dialog Instance in a test Server, try it, check that it works as we expect, and discard it in order to buy a big and powerful server where we'll definitely install the Dialog Instance. In this case, can we simply discard the test server or we have to follow a complex process for uninstall it? (this question is somehow related to the previous one).
You can discard your dialog instance without following special procedures.

Dialog Instances Java are not up after System Copy NW2004s SR2 ABAP+JAVA

Hello guys,
I have just performed a system copy of our BW system (douple stack NW2004s) wich consists from CI and 2 DIs. First I made an export using SAPINST (Software from SAP_BUSINESS_SUITE_2005_SR2 for sparc solaris), where I choosed in SAP Installation Master->SAp Netweaver 2004s Support Release 2->Additional Software Life-cycle Tasks->System Copy->Oracle->Source System->Central System->Based on ABAP and Java->Database and Central Instance Export. I couldn't find any special task for export java from my dialog instances, so I thought it would be ok like that. Then I used the same software on my target system, choosed ...Additional Software Life-cycle Tasks->System Copy->Oracle->Target System->Central System->Based on ABAP and Java->Central System Installation. In the Dialog input phase of SAPINST I indicated that use db specific tools to copy your database. So I made the database restore+recovery with our DB tools and continued withthe SAPINST and Import.
Afterwards the ABAP part and Java on the central Instance run perfect, but Java Stack is not up by both of Dialog Instances. I have checked the configtool on the server where the CI is running (the DIs are running on different linux servers) and couldn't see any entries for my dialog instances, only the CI was seable there. I tried to start configtool from the application server, but there I could find only the file config.properties in the directory /usr/sap/<SID>/.../j2ee/configtool/, others were simply not there, so it was impossible to start it. Have i forgotten something by EXPORT/IMPORT or I should just use other software for coping a System with douple stack on a CI and DIs? Or should I get configtools for Linux platform ( have searched but not found yet) and try to make the same changes wich i have done by the CI before i started Java on the CI? The most irritated point is that i can't see the dialog instanes in Configtool from the CI.
Any other suggestions and good advices?
Thanks a lot in advance.
Regards, Polina

Hi Manoj, 
I have founded following information in the work directory of one of my dialog instances ( where the java stack doesn't want to start after the copy): /usr/sap/SID/instance/work/ 
1) std_server0.out is in the condition before the system copy, no new data was written there. 
2)dev_disp 
DpJ2eeStart: j2ee state = STARTED 
DpJ2eeLogin: j2ee state = CONNECTED 
Fri Feb 26 12:58:04 2010 
ERROR => DpJ2eeMsgProcess: NiRead failed (NIECONN_BROKEN) [dpxxj2ee.c 1212] 
DpJ2eeMsgProcess: j2ee state = CONNECTED (NIECONN_BROKEN)
Fri Feb 26 12:58:20 2010 
DpJ2eeEmergencyShutdown: j2ee state = SHUTDOWN 
Fri Feb 26 12:57:20 2010 
***LOG Q0I=> NiIBindSocket: could not delete file '/tmp/.sapstream64984' for hdl 2: unlink (1: Operation not permitted) [nixxi.cpp 3207] 
ERROR => NiIBindSocket: could not delete file '/tmp/.sapstream64984' (hdl 2; errno=0) [nixxi.cpp 3214] 
WARNING => NiIBind: Could not bind local domain socket, only listening on internet socket [nixxi.cpp 3491]
It seems that java is trying to start but something goes wrong and it have to shut down
3)dev_bootstrap 
[Thr 1086335296] JLaunchIExitJava: exit hook is called (rc = 66) 
[Thr 1086335296] ********************************************************************** 
ERROR => The Java VM terminated with a non-zero exit code. 
Please see SAP Note 943602 , section 'J2EE Engine exit codes' 
for additional information and trouble shooting. 
********************************************************************** 
[Thr 1086335296] SigISetIgnoreAction : SIG_IGN for signal 17 
[Thr 1086335296] JLaunchCloseProgram: good bye (exitcode = 66)
4) jvm_bootstrap.out 
... 
Exception occurred: 
com.sap.engine.frame.core.configuration.NameNotFoundException: A configuration with the path "cluster_data/dispatcher/ID264509300" does not exist.
.. 
Exception occurred: 
com.sap.engine.bootstrap.SynchronizationException: Database initialization failed! Check database properties! 
 at com.sap.engine.bootstrap.Bootstrap.initDatabaseConnection(Bootstrap.java:476) 
 at com.sap.engine.bootstrap.Bootstrap.<init>(Bootstrap.java:146) 
com.sap.engine.bootstrap.SynchronizationException: No such Dialog Instance (ID264509300) in the database! Check database consistency or local Bootstrap properties! 
[Bootstrap module]> Problem occurred while performing synchronization.
j2ee/instance_id = ID2645093 <--- that is the ID of those DI where i took these traces from. So it seems that this ID is not in the database at all. Probably the infromation about the java stack of my DIs was not exported at all...
Thanks in advance. 
Regards, 
Polina

Installing Dialog Instances with ECC 6.0 and SQL Server 2005

Hi, I have my ECC 6.0 SAP Server, it is Central Instance, Database instance, all in one. My users are working fine, however we will be adding some new users (15) and we want add a Dialog Instance. Can I add one Dialog instance to my landscape without any changes to my SAP Server ??? ..... My dialog instance will be in a new host.
My hardware SAP Server is: 16 GB RAM, 500 GB RAID 5 for my database, four processors.
What could be my Dialogue Instance hardware?
I have read than I must install with sapinst and select Dialogue Instance and follow instructions. Are there any others considerations?? .....
Do I must install SQL Server in the host Dialog instance ??.
Please if you have some suggestions.
Regards.

Hello Jose,
You can install your dialog instance without doing any change to the existing setup as you have mentioned its on a seprate new host.
Two CPU's and 8GB memory would be fine for your dialog instance.It all depends on your requirement.
Yes you need to install the dialog instance using SAPINST, its kool and sapinst would take care of all.
You need not install any SQL server in the dialog instance host only you need to have a SQL client installed but that would be taken care by SAPINST.
Hope this would clarify your query.
Thanks and Regards,
-Bijesh.

Installation of Dialog Instance (DI)

Hello gurus,
My main goal is install an ABAP Dialog Instance (DI) on a diferent host/server than the Central Instance (CI) is installed!
We have an ECC 6.0 ABAP + JAVA (ABAP is non-unicode) on Windows Server 2003 x64 with SQL Server 2008 and we need a dialog instance (application server) to distribute SAP workload! I know that is possible to install a dialog instance on the same physical server with database server where is already installed the central instance... but what we want is simple, is install it not in the same server but on separate machine/server. We already have the other server that will be for the dialog instance, this is a Windows Server 2003 but this is a x32 bits!! (Is there any problem with this? It´s possible install a dialog instance in x32 bits server?!)
Other question... before installation of dialog instance I have to install a database? or a client database which will comunicate with main database on central instance / server ? If so, I don´t know but it is possible to install a database client SQL Server 2008 on Windows Server 2003 that runs X32 bits ?? I guess not... only SQL versions 2000 / 2005 isn´t it?
So, when I read the installation guide of SAP ERP 6.0 SR3 I only find there a short reference to Dialog Instance Installation and that is in fact a very little reference to this process! For instance, in this guide there is a reference to a dialog instance installation such a MSCS landscape...:
You have to install at least one dialog instance for MSCS. You have the following options to install the dialog instance:
... but we don´t want install it in MSCS (cluester) because we don´t have a cluster configuration between this two windows servers and besides that we don´t want to have it!!
We only want install a Dialog Instance in an existing Central Instance between two windows servers in same network!
Can you help me to clarify this questions...?
Thanks in advance,
Best regards,
João Dimas - Portugal

Many thanks Matt Kangas,
Now I can understand with more clarity some things...!!
What I have to do is run the master installation DVD in future server that it will have the dialog instance... as I said that is a X32 server and so I have to run the master installation for X32 (ERP 6.0 SR3), isn´t it?
Other thing Matt... when you warn me for the distribution kernel executables... what do you meant? I've never seen a system with both instances (CI and DI) installed, but this two will share the kernel files?
Regarding database client... I only have install the SQL Server software on dialog instance server/machine!! But I think I will find a problem... this is a X32 machine so I think (correct me if I´m wrong) that is impossible to install SQL Server 2008 in X32 machines, it only supports X64 bits, if so it´s possible with other SQL version, like 2005 (SP3)? As I said, the database in CI machine/server is installed on version SQL Server 2008, so there is some problem in having a diferent client database version installed on DI server/machine (X32)?
Best regards,
João Dimas - Portugal

Installation of central or dialog instance?

Hello,
We are currently running an ABAP-System only. We want to install an AS JAVA in order to use Adobe Document Services. We only want to use Print Forms and no Interactive Forms.
My question is, if the JAVA installation has to be as a central instance or as a dialog instance? I read through all the guides I could find, but I'm not quite sure in this point. Is the dialog instance only usable if you are already using a JAVA distributed system?
What are your recommendations, is it enough to install a simple AS JAVA or would you recommend installing EP or EPC? As I said, the AS JAVA is only needed for Adobe Print Forms for now.
Thanks in advance

Hai,
Check SAP Note: 925741, point no:1.
For the scenario of print forms you can Install Adobe document services on a SAP Web AS 6.40 ABAP + J2EE system (J2EE Add-In).
Regards,
Yoganand.V

Install new Dialog Instance on 64-bit Server with 32-bit database

I need to set up a new Application Server for our current ECC 5.0 32-bit Oracle 9.2.0.7 Non Unicode Database. The new server is x64-bit and will have Windows 2003 64-bit OS. I am reading SAP notes 785888 and 814834 and need help understanding how exactly to do this. The database server is 32-bit Windows 2003 and so is all the other application servers. Do I use the Oracle 9.2.0 client for 32-bit Oracle and do I use the SAP ECC X64 Install Master in setting up the dialog instance or do I use the 32-bit Install master? Has anyone done this type of setup before? Thanks.

Hi,
all basic information is provide in note 785888.
you want to install dialog install on 64bit windows for 32 bit central instance for that you should consider following.
-> file system is accessible from both host vice a versa for that you can create one use sapinst on 64 bit host with administrator authorization. and create same user on central instance with administrator authorization and same password.
-> perform dialog instance installation using this user ( i.e sapinst)
-> if you want to use dialog instance on 64 bit host with 64 bit kernel, install oracle client 10.2 for 64 bit on 64 bit host of windows. for media information check note 949116.
->use non unicode kernel because central instance use non unicode kernel.
-> most important 64 bit dialog instance required 64 bit kernel, SAPinst installation screen ABAP System > Instance Directories, where you are asked for the "Location of SAP System Executable", you choose "Yes, locate executables on central instance host", before choosing "Next". The executables for the dialog instance are installed to
<sapglobalhost>\sapmnt\<sapsid>\SYS\exe\<nuc\uc>\NT<AMD64|IA64|I386>*
so when you want to apply kernel patch you have to uncar the kernel package to this location.
-> maintain the kernel patch level same on both host.
regards,
kaushal

Portal dialog instance questions

Dear SDN,
2 questions on installing a dialog instance for the portal.
1. Does the dialog instance need to have a a different instance number than the central instance if it is on a separate physical host
2. Can you log onto the portal from the dialog instance?
dialog inst # = 3
Ci inst # = 1
i.e. http://dialoghost:50003/irj?
Thanks

Prakash Singh wrote:"No if the dialog instance is not on the same machine. 2. Yes you should be able to logon to portal from dialog instance. http://name of your dialog instance server: port/irj"
The above statement is accurate, because any SAP instance is uniquely identified by its hostname and its instance number. So, on the same host you must have a different instance number for your SAP instance and on multiple hosts you could run an SAP instance with the same instance number as your central instance.
Regards,
Phani.

Location of Dialog Instance

Hi all,
We have several locations in the world and we want to install servers with dialog instance's for every location.
What is the best place for a dialog instance?
At the location itself or, like somebody told me, near the DBserver/Central Instance.
Logically I would say, at the remote location itself...but I want some opinions on that.
Regards,
Bob Gulien

Hi Bob,
No, the recommendation is to install Dialog instance near DBServer/central Instance preferably connected by a high-speed (G-bit) LAN.
The reason is that the data exchnage between SAP Servers are approx 10-times more than server to end-user. So, having Dialog Instance at the remote location will put enormous pressure on network and performance will not be adequate.
Hope it solves your query ...
Cheers !!
Satya.
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How to delete Dialog instance on NW04

Hi guys
I have an installation NW04 on Cluster MSCS:
Central Instance on node A
SCS instance on Cluster Disk
Dialog instance on node B
We have performed upgrade to NW04s, and now in postprocessin we should deinstall Dialog Instance and install it again with software NW04s.
Here documentation guide:
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After the upgrade of the central instance, you need to upgrade the dialog instance to the new release.
Due to the fact that some special settings and binaries on a dialog instance cannot be upgraded
remotely, you can only upgrade a dialog instance by uninstalling the old instance and then installing
a new dialog instance with the tool SAPinst.
Procedure
1. Uninstall the old dialog instances as described in the document Installation Guide ‒ SAP Web Application
Server 6.40 Java on <Operating System>: <Database>, Part II Installation and Post-Installation.
2. Install the new dialog instances as described in the document Installation Guide ‒ <SAP NetWeaver /
SAP application> <Technology> on <Operating System>: <Database>.
Point 1, is :
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1. Log on as a user with domain administration rights.
2. Choose Start u2192 Settings u2192 Control Panel u2192 Add/Remove Programs.
3. The Add/Remove Programs dialog box appears.
4. Find the SAP entries.
. Note
Each SAP instance that is installed on the computer is listed with an entry like SAP Application Server
for System <SAPSID> instance.
5. Choose Remove.
The SAP Uninstall Wizard starts.
6. In the Welcome window, choose Next.
The dialog box Uninstalling SAP System appears for you to select an uninstall method
Depending on your selection, note the following when you use the check box to delete an SAP instance:
-- If your check box is marked gray, you delete or uninstall the following:
The SAP instance directory, for example:
\usr\sap\<SAPSID>\D00
Services, for example:
SAP<SAPSID>_00
The whole system directory, for example:
\usr\sap\<SAPSID>\*
-- If your check box is marked black, you delete or uninstall the following:
The SAP instance directory, for example:
\usr\sap\<SAPSID>\D00
Services, for example, SAP <SAPSID>_00
The whole system directory, for example:
\usr\sap\<SAPSID>\*
Local and domain user accounts
If you have different SAP instances that use the same <SAPSID>, you can delete the instance
directory only.
The wizard informs you when the SAP system or selected instances have been deleted successfully
But in my node B there is no SAP entry on Start u2192 Settings u2192 Control Panel u2192 Add/Remove Programs, however Dialog Instance exists, and windows service exists...and so on...
So how can we deinstall this dialog instance???
Thanks and regards
Javier

Hi
In node A there is JC30 (Java central instance)
In node B there is J32 (Java Dialog instance)
SCS31 (Services Central Instance) is now in node A, but can be switched.
Database Instance is OUTSIDE, is located on a Unix Server. (is not affected in this case)
Looking node B, there is no entry on Adding/Removing Programs regarding to SAP instance.
Of course, I can see windows services on node B, one for J32, other for SAPoscol, and one more for SCS31.
Any idea?
Thanks
Javier

Differnce between central instance ,dialog instance and application instanc

Hi all
Please explain me what is central instance. what is it differnce betwenn the
other instances like dilaog instance ,apllication instance.
What is the exact use of having many instances ?
regards
Sanjeev.S

Hi Sanjeev,
First of all let me Clarify between Cental instance(CI)and Central Service instance(SCS). When you install NW04/NW04s systems on WIndows, when you open you windows console, you would first find the SID name that you have installed and when you expand this you'll find 2 instances. When you expand the first instance you'll find that there are message server and Enqueue server listed. This instance is called as Central Service instance or simply called SCS. You can look at the folder structure /usr/sap/<SID>/.
Now the second instance is called as Central instance, when expanded you would see a SDM, a dispatcher and a server node. This is the instance which processes all your requests.
Now answering your question about Dialog instance, When the CI is overloaded, i.e. your dispatcher is overloaded and your server is overloaded , you would install a dialog instance, which means that the database need not be installed for the Dialog instance and it can be on any system. While installing the Dialog instance it would ask you which Cental instance I have to refer, then you would be giving the necessary system to which you have created a dialog instance.
Giving a graphical view,
SID < J2E>
< DATABASE>
<hostname>00 message server
 enqueue server
<hostname>01 SDM
 dispatcher
 server0
This is your one SAP system. Now you feel that this system is overloaded with lot of users, any there are many user who will be logging in again, so what you would do is install a dialog instance which would be referiing to J2E database but will have its own dispatcher and server0. SDM, message server and enqueue server are only one per systems.
Now the dialog instance for J2E would look like this
SID < K2E>
<hostname2>01 dispatcher
 server0
Dialog instance is mainly for load balacing, now you can access the database of J2E by typing a different URL i.e. of K2E and hostname2 but still accees the data of the J2E. The communication between Dialog and Central instance is thru message server.
In case you find it difficult to push thru, please let me know..

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