Is JSF dead before it was born?

Hi all,
I'm interested if anyone out there is using JSF in a larger scale production environment.
The background of my questions is that our company was evaluation Java based web frameworks, and JSF was really a promising step forward.
But so far it doesn't really exists, the only ongoing project is MyFaces and it does not have production quality yet. I don't know of any onging impelmentation which is soon ready to use.
Does anyone know of a usable implementation, which is planned for the near future, or is everyone waiting until the specification gets more matrue?
Thanks for your opinion!
Cheers
Bernhard

yes JSF use javascript, not only MyFaces.
But it's quite hard to build modern, user-friendly websites without ANY javascript.
- It was really slow: Lists from the database with
more than 70 entries took more than 30 seconds to
load, even the sql returned in 100msI remember a topic about that here, the bottom line was "use a pager component", and that's what we do, we never present more than 20 lines to the user. So I can't say if this point improved.
- It was unstable, it was randomly hanging upWe never had stability problems. Our production server, JBoss, works for weeks without any problems, we just stop it to release new version.
I admit that I was looking at it like 6 months ago
(Version 1.0.2), but I guess at least the javascript
issue is still the same.Of course there have been lots of work in 6 months.
And now MyFaces is under Apache, which is certainly a good point/security.
Frederic

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