Is this a bug in Smart Playlist creation?

I am a huge fan of smart playlists. I have some pretty complex/clever playlists that I use to determine syncing.
While editing my playlists I stumbled upon a situation that leaves you unable to move your rules around.
I made a new playlist to demonstrate:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13042716/iTunesBug.tiff
If you only have "All/Any of the following are true" with some sub-rules, it is impossible to make a new rule outside of this group. Go make a playlist just like in the picture, and try to make a rule be on the same level with the "Any/All of the following are true" instead of under it. Maybe I just can't figure out how to do it, but I consider myself pretty knowledgeable when it comes to managing iTunes Smart Playlists.
I had a playlist with tons of rules that I was editing, and I had to recreate the whole thing because I deleted all of the rules on the same leve with "Any/All of the following are true" and wanted to make another rule on the same level. Of course I could have hacked together a solution using more rules, but I wanted it to be right.
FYI to make this specific rule you have to press Option on your keyboard, then the "+" button changes to "..." and this button adds the rule with a blank sub-rule.

Why was this moved to "Using iPhone" ??
It is a question about Safari for iOS - not iPhone/iPod usage.

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ed2345 wrote:
You can use playlist membership as a criterion in a Smart Playlist.
So if the list you are moving them to is "SecondPlaylist" (or whatever you wish to call it) then add a rule to your custom-tailored Recently Added that states "Playlist" "is not" "SecondPlaylist."
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Apple, Apple, Apple... (again)
Is it so difficult to let things, that are quite good, just there where they are??
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So please think before you delete any functions, who is needed by many people.
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I hope anyone from Apple read this and also answer me. Because I´m upset about that.
In every iTunes-Update I am concerned about what will be after the update.
For example in the past, there was more than one changes in iTunes with the Valuation. First, there was just whole stars to set for every song. Than, after a long time, Apple decided to give the options for also half stars. So I said to myself - hey that´s great, that I don´t have to use external apps anymore to set these. So I did this to many of my songs (and that´s many).
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I was VERY upset.
So after an other update, the opportunity to give half stars are back.
I thought, my god, it is so difficult to talk with other guys, that worked before on iTunes if I am new or just to look if there was already a change in that part of the app???
So, apple guys, please don´t think that I want to attack you. But please be more carefull in the future. I hope that I don´t have to worry too much about so stuff. I really have better things to do with my time.
So, have a nice weekend.
Greetings from Germany.
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