ISP provides virus protection. Do I need it with IMac?

Comcast is switching their security provider to Norton. They want all users to re-sign up.
Do I need to or is the OSX built-in protection enough? All of the antivirus products hurt the performance of desktops (in my experience).
Comments welcome. Should I or shouldn't I?

tmaruri wrote:
Do I need to
no.
or is the OSX built-in protection enough?
yes.
see this:
Glenn Carter wrote:
A user in another forum asked me this question. I realize this is hardly a new topic, but below was my answer. I figured I would post it here and get your thoughts as well. Perhaps this and your comments will be helpful for others with the same question.
One question; I do not have an antivirus installed. Does a Mac need an antivirus installed? if yes, what would you recommend?
Does a Mac "need" antivirus software? Though this can be a controversial topic with some, my simple answer is "No". Personally, in the some 20 years I have been using Macs I have never installed an antivirus program. During that same time I have never been infected by a Mac-targeted virus/trojan/worm etc.
That is not to say that trojans and vulnerabilities have not existed. But the truth is, unlike PCs, Macs simply do not make good targets for these kinds of attacks. For the most part, for a Mac to become compromised a user has to permit it by lowering their defenses or manually installing some infected software package. On the other hand many PCs can become infected without any effort on the users part. Thus the need for every PC to be running antivirus software. After everything has been said and done, the truth is attacks on the Mac have simply not been very effective. Whereas, a PC virus can be spread worldwide within hours and days.
Macs also enjoy the benefit of being a less attractive target for hackers. If you are a virus designer, you want your product to have the most impact, and make headlines. As a result you are going to target the largest sector of the computing population - PCs. Additionally, most of the more recent attacks by hackers have been to establish what are called 'botnets'. These are large numbers of compromised PCs connected together via the internet, all controlled by one or more criminal entities. Most of these PC owners are unaware that their computers has been silently taken over to be used for gleaning information for identity theft or to distribute spam email worldwide. Since Macs are a completely different platform, and their numbers significantly fewer than PCs, it's simply not worth the effort to design software to include Macs in these botnets.
That doesn't mean that I do not observe safe computing practices. Think twice before downloading any file being offered by 3rd-party websites. If it is not from a known/trusted website then avoid it. Carefully, review emails you receive from unknown senders. Are there attachments you were not expecting to receive? DO NOT click on them. Avoid passing on chain emails of cute pictures, clever jokes, and interesting facts. These kinds of emails can actually be very effective ways for hackers to distribute hidden computer viruses because they know people can't resist passing on these kinds of email messages. In nearly every instance, I will read these kinds of emails, and then hit Delete.
Avoid advertising your primary email address to the world. That is, resist using your email address to fill-out contest forms or signing up for websites or various offers that are simply attempts at gleaning personal information. Guard your email address like you would any other personal information. If you must submit an email address to an unknown entity, use a special email address (or alias) set up just for these instances. Then when that email account becomes clogged with spam, close it and setup another one. But reserve your primary email address just for family, friends, & business use.
Finally, antivirus software for the Mac is notoriously problematic. At best, it simply slows your system down. At worst, it introduces points of failure and crashes that are simply not necessary. And such software often interferes with normal processes such as Time Machine backups, MobileMe syncing, and file transfers. Also, antivirus software can only protect you from 'known' threats. If there are no legitimate 'known' threats to the Mac right now, what are you protecting yourself against? If a genuinely virulent new virus/trojan suddenly appears among the Mac community, then you will either, buy antivirus software at that point, or already be infected, at which point you will buy antivirus software at that point. But running antivirus software now will not protect you against an unknown threat.
Some will argue that, while the Mac itself is less likely to become infected, you should still run antivirus software as it is designed to catch PC viruses that you might pass on to PC users. That is a personal decision. However, my position is this, if I'm going to observe save computing practices, then I am unlikely to pass on any PC viruses to begin with. Why slow down my own system for the benefit of others if I'm unlikely to behave in a way that will compromise their computers?
So, again, while it is a personal choice, the above answer is why I, personally, do not run antivirus software at this time.
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rkaufmann87 wrote:
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Panics Since Last Report:          2
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0xffffff817b853c50 : 0xffffff8023861cff
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0xffffff817b853e80 : 0xffffff8023420b3d
0xffffff817b853eb0 : 0xffffff8023410448
0xffffff817b853f00 : 0xffffff802341961b
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12E55
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 12.4.0: Wed May 1 17:57:12 PDT 2013; root:xnu-2050.24.15~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 896CB1E3-AB79-3DF1-B595-549DFFDF3D36
Kernel slide:     0x0000000023200000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8023400000
System model name: iMac12,1 (Mac-942B5BF58194151B)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 16415363712474
last loaded kext at 35076330317: com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothHIDKeyboard          170.2 (addr 0xffffff7fa4f41000, size 24576)
last unloaded kext at 159203583668: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI          5.2.5 (addr 0xffffff7fa3d61000, size 65536)
loaded kexts:
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetAdp          4.2.16
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetFlt          4.2.16
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxUSB          4.2.16
org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxDrv          4.2.16
com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC          1.60
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor          1.9.5d0
com.apple.driver.AGPM          100.12.87
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver          122
com.apple.filesystems.autofs          3.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDCACMData          4.1.23
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA          2.3.7fc4
com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport          4.1.4f2
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient          3.5.10
com.apple.kext.AMDFramebuffer          8.1.2
com.apple.driver.AppleSMCLMU          2.0.3d0
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver          2.3.7fc4
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHD3000Graphics          8.1.2
com.apple.AMDRadeonAccelerator          1.0.8
com.apple.driver.AppleSMCPDRC          1.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet          1.0.0d1
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager          4.1.4f2
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X          7.0.0
com.apple.driver.ApplePolicyControl          3.4.5
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin          1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight          170.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl          1.1.11
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC          1.6.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDC          4.1.23
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelSNBGraphicsFB          8.1.2
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient          3.5.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCardReader          3.1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController          320.15
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless          1.0.0d1
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib          1.0.0d1
com.apple.BootCache          34
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter          404
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage          2.3.1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub          5.5.5
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI          4.9.6
com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet          3.6.1b4
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Atheros40          600.72.2
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort          2.5.2
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI          5.5.0
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM          1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons          1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC          1.5
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET          1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS          1.9
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC          1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC          1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient          196.0.0
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall          4.0.39
com.apple.security.quarantine          2.1
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement          196.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothHIDKeyboard          170.2
com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver          4.1.4f2
com.apple.driver.AppleHIDKeyboard          170.2
com.apple.kext.triggers          1.0
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib          2.3.7fc4
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily          1.8.9fc11
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib          1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDCACMControl          4.1.23
com.apple.iokit.AppleBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport          4.1.4f2
com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily          74.5.1
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltEDMSink          1.1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltEDMSource          1.1.8
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP          2.2.5
com.apple.kext.AMD6000Controller          8.1.2
com.apple.kext.AMDSupport          8.1.2
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController          2.3.7fc4
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily          2.3.7fc4
com.apple.iokit.IOSurface          86.0.4
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily          10.0.6
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily          4.1.4f2
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginLegacy          1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI          1.0.11d0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC          3.1.4d2
com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl          3.4.5
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert          1.0.4
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com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController          1.0.11d0
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com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily          2.3.7
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice          3.5.5
com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily          1.7
com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily          1.7.1
com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily          1.7.1
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI          2.5.1
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPOutAdapter          1.8.9
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPInAdapter          1.8.9
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPAdapterFamily          1.8.9
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltPCIDownAdapter          1.2.6
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice          3.5.5
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass          3.5.1
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily          3.5.5
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver          5.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub          5.5.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite          5.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltNHI          1.7.8
com.apple.iokit.IOThunderboltFamily          2.4.0
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient          5.5.5
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily          4.5.5
com.apple.iokit.IOEthernetAVBController          1.0.2b1
com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family          530.4
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily          3.0
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily          2.3.1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily          5.6.0
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime          1.7
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily          1.8.1
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily          1.1
com.apple.security.sandbox          220.3
com.apple.kext.AppleMatch          1.0.0d1
com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet          7
com.apple.driver.DiskImages          345
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily          1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore          28.21
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform          1.7
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily          2.7.3
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily          1.4
com.apple.kec.corecrypto          1.0
Model: iMac12,1, BootROM IM121.0047.B1F, 4 processors, Intel Core i5, 2.5 GHz, 12 GB, SMC 1.71f21
Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6750M, AMD Radeon HD 6750M, PCIe, 512 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x0000, 0x4B425F34475F44335F313333335F43390000
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x02FE, 0x45424A3231554538424655302D444A2D4620
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM1, 4 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x0000, 0x4B425F34475F44335F313333335F43390000
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM1, 2 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x02FE, 0x45424A3231554538424655302D444A2D4620
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x168C, 0x9A), Atheros 9380: 4.0.72.0-P2P
Bluetooth: Version 4.1.4f2 12041, 2 service, 18 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: WDC WD5000AAKS-402AA0, 500.11 GB
Serial ATA Device: HL-DT-STDVDRW GA32N
USB Device: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in), apple_vendor_id, 0x850b, 0xfa200000 / 3
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfa100000 / 2
USB Device: LG CDMA USB Modem, 0x1004 (LG Electronics Inc.), 0x6000, 0xfa120000 / 6
USB Device: Wireless Mouse, 0x05b8, 0x3166, 0xfa130000 / 5
USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0xfa110000 / 4
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x8215, 0xfa111000 / 7
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfd100000 / 2
USB Device: Internal Memory Card Reader, apple_vendor_id, 0x8403, 0xfd110000 / 4
USB Device: IR Receiver, apple_vendor_id, 0x8242, 0xfd120000 / 3

Hi Kirk, not much to go on there for me, sorry.
One way to test is to Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, Test for problem in Safe Mode...
PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive
Reboot, test again.
If it only does it in Regular Boot, then it could be some hardware problem like Video card, (Quartz is turned off in Safe Mode), or Airport, or some USB or Firewire device, or 3rd party add-on, Check System Preferences>Accounts (Users & Groups in later OSX versions)>Login Items window to see if it or something relevant is listed. Or an errant process eating up RAM.
Check the System Preferences>Other Row, for 3rd party Pref Panes.
Also look in these if they exist, some are invisible...
/private/var/run/StartupItems
/Library/StartupItems
/System/Library/StartupItems
/System/Library/LaunchDaemons
/Library/LaunchDaemons

Need Help with iMac G4 No Dial Tone

I am working on a friend's iMac G4 800 Mhz. Has Mac X 10.2.3 OS. Internal Apple 56K V.90 Modem.
The modem gives error "no dial tone". This just recently started happening for no apparent reason. Tried different phone cable and tested the wall jack for dial tone on a connected phone. All tests OK.
This modem is "built in". Is this problem fixable? Is it a hardware or a settings issue?
The only fix I can think of is an external modem, but would like to fix the internal one if possible.
Any ideas? Any and all advice is appreciated. I'm new to Macs, so I have limited knowledge of the system.
Thanks,
Jim
iMac G4 Mac OS X (10.2.x)

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DSL - Firewalls and Virus Protection

Tonight I am going to try to hook-up DSL to our new G5. (My old iMac used dial-up) First, I hear about firewalls, but don't really know what they are. All I know is that they keep out the "bad guys". What are they and do I need one? What about virus protection? If needed what program is recommended? Any other pointers that you think I will need for setting up the DSL is appreciated.
After reading previous postings I think that I will use a wired DSL hook up even though I have the wireless keyboard and mouse.

Mandy: A. Firewall = yes; B. Virus protection = no.
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