Java ide productivity gain

Hello -
I'm building a business case for a client regarding Return on Investment (ROI) of Java IDE (not necessarily JDevelopler). The client has 2 different non-IDE environments (one with microsoft products, the other with CORBA). The million dollar question is what productivity gain will they see by moving to a common Java IDE? Thank you.

Depends upon your staff, their training and understanding; your specific deployment method, your established infrastructure that you must stay within. sigh Productivity gain is relative to starting point, so your question can not be simply responded to without some way of knowing and measuring your current "productivity" and determining a method of projecting, via a metric, the target "productivity" produced by the use of the IDE.
What is your deployment target? Do you need to debug server side java?
Another example, if you use BC4J, and currently have no framework for dealing with databases in your Java... you may achieve great "productivity" by not writing your own custom layer. And then there is the "immediate" gain vs the gain over the long haul. ( maintaining/enhancing your proprietary custom layer, dealing with new situations that you didn't know about when you started, etc ).
Do you have well designed/built templates as a starting place... or will JDEV's wizards help generate code for you and remove a lot of muck work?
FWIW, I've seen folk use notepad and W95 to create complex Java apps/websites ( or for that matter C++ apps ) faster than fancy development IDEs for spot, narrowly focused and discrete tasks and projects. Those folk also knew how to use the web to find re-usable components quickly. Not that the resulting apps were all necessarily MAINTAINABLE.
I'm glad to discern that you are not looking at JDev as a "RAD" tool, or mistake it for a 4GL.
But when looking at JDEV as an Enterprise level database applications toolset for building Java/Web applications for the long haul... well... I picked it. grin
You might look at the JDEV 9i white paper. See closer integration for Repository, PL/SQL, UML modeling/Designer... etc.
Lastly, I think any IDE you get will NOT be a productivity gain until your staff has training in how to use it, has some time to learn the quirks and workarounds, determines how to set up infrastructure/standards... the first project will probably be a bear.. but AFTER the first project, if you persevered, kept the staff, and use the same approach and look/feel ( application/applet/jsp/servelet/ad nauseam ) then you should see fairly good productivity gain. What's fairly good? ( What's quality? I know it when I see it. )
Heheh. Good Luck.

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