Java process take 100% cpu

Hello,
I have a webapp running on Tomcat 5.0.28/RHEL 3.0. After some time (approximatively 1 hour), a java process take 100% cpu load and never stop, but the application do nothing.
Some detail on my configuration :
Distribution : Redhat Enterprise Linux 3.0 (updated)
Kernel 2.4.21-37.0.1.ELsmp
Glibc 2.3.2-95.37
JVM : JRockit 1.4.2.08 (the last one)
Tomcat : 5.0.28
Server : 2*Xeon 3GHz HT, 2Go RAM
JVM param : -Xmx:256m -Xms:256m
Thanks for your answers ...

Try taking thread dump (send a SIGQUIT to JRockit using "kill"). If you
get a thread dump, the VM is alive, and it's probably your java program
that's broken. In that case, make a JRA recording to see what's happening:
http://e-docs.bea.com/jrockit/docs142/usingJRA/jra.html
The methods pane is probably what you're looking for.
If you don't get any thread dump when sending a SIGQUIT to JRockit,
come back here.
Regards //Johan
Gr?goire Rolland wrote:
Hello,
I have a webapp running on Tomcat 5.0.28/RHEL 3.0. After some time (approximatively 1 hour), a java process take 100% cpu load and never stop, but the application do nothing.
Some detail on my configuration :
Distribution : Redhat Enterprise Linux 3.0 (updated)
Kernel 2.4.21-37.0.1.ELsmp
Glibc 2.3.2-95.37
JVM : JRockit 1.4.2.08 (the last one)
Tomcat : 5.0.28
Server : 2*Xeon 3GHz HT, 2Go RAM
JVM param : -Xmx:256m -Xms:256m
Thanks for your answers ...

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       Nov  6 12:29:24 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov  6 12:29:24 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
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       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
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       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 12:43:27 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
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       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
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       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
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       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
       Nov 10 15:07:47 smb2_smb_parse_change_notify: smb_rq_reply failed 60
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