Joining existing OES servers running samba to DSfW domain

I fell dense for asking but I have not seen an answer to this question anywhere. I added DSfW into my environment and I had existing OES 11 (sp1) servers that had samba running and functioning well for what I needed. Now (before I upgrade to service pack 2, I would like to get some ducks in a row.
The servers that were running samba prior to the introduction of DSfW, I want to have as members of the domain.
What are the steps to do this?
Daniel Wells AIA, VCP
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We are a file and print shop with users demanding all sorts of ways to access their files. The three file servers in questions are set up with NSS/NCP access to the file systems with SMB (as part of a workgroup, since the DSfW domain was added later) and AFP overlaid. SMB was originally used for web access to the file systems through our SSL VPN.
I would like to join the Macs int he office to the DSfW domain and have them authenticate to the domain and have access to the files, hopefully without having to re-enter passwords for each server, and thus be able to discard AFP on the servers.
If I need to redo the SMB configuration to get it to work with DSfW, then that is alright. I'm sure I can reconfigure the VPN to access any new SMB configuration.
Daniel Wells AIA, VCP
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>>> ab<[email protected]> 9/12/2014 10:11 PM >>>
It may help to understand exactly what these servers are doing now, vs.
what you want them to do. Should they be DCs when done? Are you just
wanting to share files to workstations using SMB? Are there
pieces/configurations of Samba right now on those other servers that you
would like to preserve?
Good luck.
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