KDE + undo in joe editor
Hi.
I have recently switched to kde-unstable repo and am having a problem.
New konsole (so yakuake as well) uses 'ctrl-shift-minus' to shrink the font size.
This is also the shortcut for the joe editor to 'undo' changes (in text console it's simply Ctrl-minus, in KDE it was always Ctrl-Shift-minus).
Now it doesn't work, so instead of undo the font size decreases.
Does anybody know how to deal with that? Either modifying joe's shortcut, or making it accept 'ctrl-minus' for undo, ar disabling the font
size changes in konsole...
I don't know about konsole but to change the keyboard shortcut for undo in joe edit /etc/joe/joerc, find the line
undo ^_ Undo changes
and change it to something different, such as
undo ^z Undo changes
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import java.awt.*;
import java.awt.event.*;
import javax.swing.*;
import javax.swing.text.*;
import javax.swing.event.*;
import javax.swing.undo.*;
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private int lastOffset;
public CompoundUndoManager(JTextComponent editor)
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// Start a new compound edit
if (compoundEdit == null)
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return;
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(AbstractDocument.DefaultDocumentEvent)e.getEdit();
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if (Math.abs(diff) == 1
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panel.add( new JScrollPane(textPane), BorderLayout.CENTER );
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try
undoManager.undo();
textPane.requestFocus();
catch (CannotUndoException ex)
System.out.println("Unable to undo: " + ex);
buttons.add( undo );
JButton redo = new JButton( "Redo" );
redo.addActionListener( new ActionListener()
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try
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textPane.requestFocus();
catch (CannotRedoException ex)
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frame.pack();
frame.setVisible(true);
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There is also a problem that my Pentax lens 55-300 HD is not recognize from the app.
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ToniPlease I need your help because after the modification in external editor if I undo the modification Aperture put my photo in the trash.
Aperture can only undo edits losslessly, that are done using Aperture's internal edit tools. When you edit in an external editor, Aperture creates a new original image files (TIFF or PSD) and sends this to the external editor.
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<Filename>netbeans.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>python2.5.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-kapptemplate.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>designer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-kompare.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-cervisia.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-kcachegrind.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>java-visualvm.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-umbrello.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-kuiviewer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>assistant.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-kbugbuster.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>geany.desktop</Filename>
</Layout>
<Include>
<Filename>pyCrust.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>Applications</Name>
<Exclude>
<Filename>wine-Programy-4shared Service-4shared Uploader.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-K-Lite Codec Pack-Configuration-AC3Filter.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoCAD R14-AutoCAD R14.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-K-Lite Codec Pack-Tools-Xvid StatsReader.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoHotkey-AutoHotkey.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoCAD R14-AutoCAD Readme.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Larian Studios-Beyond Divinity Demo-Configuration.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-K-Lite Codec Pack-Configuration-Cyberlink MPEG-2 decoder.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-DeliPlayer-DeliPlayer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Miranda IM-Database Tool.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-Documentation.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-K-Lite Codec Pack-Configuration-DirectVobSub.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AviSynth 2.5-Folder wtyczek.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Atmel AVR Tools-AVR QTouch Studio.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Audacity.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AviSynth 2.5-Angielska dokumentacja.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoHotkey-AutoIt3 Window Spy.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-SubEdit-Player-SubEdit Pomoc.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoHotkey-AutoHotkey Help File.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoHotkey-AutoScriptWriter (recorder).desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Atmel AVR Tools-AVR Battery Studio.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Borland Delphi 7-Help-Error Messages & Warnings.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-Free Download Manager.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-FDM remote control server.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-Free Download Manager on the Web.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-Free Upload Manager.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Instalacja.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-MySQL Oracle Import, Export & Convert Software-MySQL Oracle Import, Export & Convert Software.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Pierwsze kroki.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Pomoc online.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Fallout Saga DVD-Fallout-Dokumentacja-Pomoc techniczna offline.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Unreal-Play Unreal.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Fallout Saga DVD-Fallout-Dokumentacja-Poradnik do gry (trzynasty schron).desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Readme.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Unreal-Information-Release Notes.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>oraclexe-runsql.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>alacarte-made.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>Shareaza.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Fallout Saga DVD-Fallout-Dokumentacja-Słownik Fallout.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>oraclexe-startdb.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Szkolna.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-Uninstall Free Download Manager.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-MySQL Oracle Import, Export & Convert Software-Uninstall MySQL Oracle Import.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Unreal-Unreal Editor.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Unreal-Unreal Safe Mode.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Fallout Saga DVD-Fallout-Uruchom grę Fallout.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Fallout Saga DVD-Fallout-Usuń grę Fallout.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Usuń WSCAD 5.0.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WIBU-KEY-WIBU-KEY Help (English).desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-WinRAR.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-WSCAD File Viewer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Przejęcie danych.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-winecfg.desktop</Filename>
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<Merge type="files"/>
<Filename>screensavers-biof.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-busyspheres.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-colorfire.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-cyclone.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-pixelcity.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-drempels.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-euphoria.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-feedback.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-fieldlines.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-flocks.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-flux.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-helios.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-hufo_smoke.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-hufo_tunnel.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-hyperspace.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-lattice.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-lorenz.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-matrixview.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-plasma.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-skyrocket.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-solarwinds.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-spirographx.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>screensavers-sundancer2.desktop</Filename>
</Layout>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>.hidden</Name>
<Include>
<Filename>wine-Programy-4shared Service-4shared Uploader.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-K-Lite Codec Pack-Configuration-AC3Filter.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoCAD R14-AutoCAD R14.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-K-Lite Codec Pack-Tools-Xvid StatsReader.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoHotkey-AutoHotkey.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoCAD R14-AutoCAD Readme.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Larian Studios-Beyond Divinity Demo-Configuration.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-K-Lite Codec Pack-Configuration-Cyberlink MPEG-2 decoder.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-DeliPlayer-DeliPlayer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Miranda IM-Database Tool.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-Documentation.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-K-Lite Codec Pack-Configuration-DirectVobSub.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AviSynth 2.5-Folder wtyczek.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Atmel AVR Tools-AVR QTouch Studio.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Audacity.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AviSynth 2.5-Angielska dokumentacja.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoHotkey-AutoIt3 Window Spy.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-SubEdit-Player-SubEdit Pomoc.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoHotkey-AutoHotkey Help File.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-AutoHotkey-AutoScriptWriter (recorder).desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Atmel AVR Tools-AVR Battery Studio.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Startup-ST5UNST Uninstaller.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Borland Delphi 7-Help-Error Messages & Warnings.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-Free Download Manager.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-FDM remote control server.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-Free Download Manager on the Web.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-Free Upload Manager.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Instalacja.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-MySQL Oracle Import, Export & Convert Software-MySQL Oracle Import, Export & Convert Software.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Pierwsze kroki.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Pomoc online.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Fallout Saga DVD-Fallout-Dokumentacja-Pomoc techniczna offline.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Unreal-Play Unreal.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Fallout Saga DVD-Fallout-Dokumentacja-Poradnik do gry (trzynasty schron).desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Readme.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Unreal-Information-Release Notes.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>oraclexe-runsql.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>alacarte-made.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>Shareaza.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Fallout Saga DVD-Fallout-Dokumentacja-Słownik Fallout.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>oraclexe-startdb.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Szkolna.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Free Download Manager-Uninstall Free Download Manager.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-MySQL Oracle Import, Export & Convert Software-Uninstall MySQL Oracle Import.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Unreal-Unreal Editor.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Unreal-Unreal Safe Mode.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Fallout Saga DVD-Fallout-Uruchom grę Fallout.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Fallout Saga DVD-Fallout-Usuń grę Fallout.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Usuń WSCAD 5.0.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WIBU-KEY-WIBU-KEY Help (English).desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-WinRAR.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-WSCAD File Viewer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Programy-WSCAD 5.0-Przejęcie danych.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-wine</Name>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy</Name>
<Layout>
<Merge type="menus"/>
<Menuname>wine-Programy-Bulk Rename Utility</Menuname>
<Menuname>wine-Programy-K-Lite Codec Pack</Menuname>
<Menuname>wine-Programy-Microsoft Office</Menuname>
<Menuname>wine-Programy-PowerISO</Menuname>
<Menuname>wine-Programy-Shareaza</Menuname>
<Menuname>wine-Programy-Startup</Menuname>
<Menuname>wine-Programy-TED Notepad</Menuname>
<Menuname>wine-Programy-WinRAR</Menuname>
<Menuname>wine-Programy-WinUAE</Menuname>
<Menuname>wine-Programy-XnView</Menuname>
<Menuname>wine-Programy-Xvid</Menuname>
<Merge type="files"/>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Windows Media Player.desktop</Filename>
</Layout>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Startup</Name>
<Layout/>
<Exclude>
<Filename>wine-Programy-Startup-ST5UNST Uninstaller.desktop</Filename>
</Exclude>
</Menu>
<Deleted/>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-4shared Service</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Atari</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Atmel AVR Tools</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-AutoCAD R14</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-AutoCAD R14.0 - odinstalowanie</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-AutoHotkey</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Black Isle</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Borland Delphi 7</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Bullfrog</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-DeliPlayer</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Diablo</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-DreamCatcher</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-EuroPlus+ Angielski z Cambridge</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-femm 4.2</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Heroes of Might and Magic III</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Intelligent Converters</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Interplay</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-xp-AntiSpy</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Winamp</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Unreal Antologia</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-SubEdit-Player</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Sierra</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-NAPI-PROJEKT</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Miranda IM</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-MicroSim Eval 8</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Larian Studios</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programs</Name>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Include>
<Filename>wine-winecfg.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>dysk C.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
<Layout>
<Merge type="menus"/>
<Menuname>Programy</Menuname>
<Merge type="files"/>
<Filename>dysk C.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-winecfg.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Nowy dokument Office.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>wine-Otwórz dokument Office.desktop</Filename>
</Layout>
<Menu>
<Name>Programy</Name>
<NotDeleted/>
<Layout>
<Merge type="files"/>
<Filename>TEDNotepad.desktop</Filename>
</Layout>
<Include>
<Filename>TEDNotepad.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
</Menu>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>Programy</Name>
<Directory>Programy.directory</Directory>
</Menu>
<Move>
<Old>Programy/</Old>
<New>wine-wine/Programy/</New>
</Move>
<Layout>
<Merge type="menus"/>
<Menuname>Programy</Menuname>
<Menuname>Office</Menuname>
<Menuname>Education</Menuname>
<Menuname>Graphics</Menuname>
<Menuname>Games</Menuname>
<Menuname>Internet</Menuname>
<Menuname>Multimedia</Menuname>
<Menuname>Utilities</Menuname>
<Menuname>Development</Menuname>
<Menuname>Science</Menuname>
<Menuname>System</Menuname>
<Menuname>Settingsmenu</Menuname>
<Menuname>Arch Linux</Menuname>
<Menuname>Applications</Menuname>
<Merge type="files"/>
<Filename>kde4-Help.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-kfind.desktop</Filename>
</Layout>
</Menu>
applications.menu
<!DOCTYPE Menu
PUBLIC '-//freedesktop//DTD Menu 1.0//EN'
'http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-1.0.dtd'>
<Menu>
<Name>Applications</Name>
<MergeFile type="parent">/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu</MergeFile>
<Menu>
<Name>System</Name>
<DirectoryDir>/home/bagheera/.local/share/desktop-directories</DirectoryDir>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>Development</Name>
<DirectoryDir>/home/bagheera/.local/share/desktop-directories</DirectoryDir>
<Include>
<Filename>python2.5.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
<AppDir>/home/bagheera/.local/share/applications</AppDir>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>Other</Name>
<DirectoryDir>/home/bagheera/.local/share/desktop-directories</DirectoryDir>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>alacarte-made</Name>
<Directory>alacarte-made.directory</Directory>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<DefaultLayout inline="false"/>
<Menu>
<Name>alacarte-made-1</Name>
<Directory>alacarte-made-1.directory</Directory>
<Deleted/>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>Multimedia</Name>
<Include>
<Filename>cdemu-client.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
<AppDir>/home/bagheera/.local/share/applications</AppDir>
<Include>
<Filename>vumeter.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>Office</Name>
<Include>
<Filename>ooo-math.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
<AppDir>/home/bagheera/.local/share/applications</AppDir>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-wine</Name>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programs</Name>
<DirectoryDir>/home/bagheera/.local/share/desktop-directories</DirectoryDir>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy</Name>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-4shared Service</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-AutoCAD R14</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-AutoCAD R14.0 - odinstalowanie</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-MicroSim Eval 8</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Miranda IM</Name>
</Menu>
<Include>
<Filename>EuroPlus+ Angielski z Cambridge.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Intelligent Converters</Name>
</Menu>
<Include>
<Filename>WinRAR.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
<Include>
<Filename>TED Notepad.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
<Include>
<Filename>Shareaza.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-WinRAR</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-TED Notepad</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Shareaza</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-EuroPlus+ Angielski z Cambridge</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Atari</Name>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Atari-Temple of Elemental Evil</Name>
</Menu>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-WinUAE</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-PowerISO</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-NAPI-PROJEKT</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-femm 4.2</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Diablo</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Heroes of Might and Magic III</Name>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>wine-Programy-Xvid</Name>
</Menu>
</Menu>
<AppDir>/home/bagheera/.local/share/applications</AppDir>
<Exclude>
<Filename>wine-µTorrent.desktop</Filename>
</Exclude>
</Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>Education</Name>
<Include>
<Filename>alacarte-made.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
</Menu>
</Menu>
K, i got it!
I have removed all files from ~/.config/menus/ except applications-kmenuedit.menu, and removed all sections from file except first *menu:
<!DOCTYPE Menu PUBLIC '-//freedesktop//DTD Menu 1.0//EN' 'http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/1.0/menu.dtd'>
<Menu>
<Menu>
<Name>Development</Name>
<Include>
<Filename>pyCrust.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>IDLE.desktop</Filename>
</Include>
<Layout>
<Merge type="files" />
<Filename>IDLE.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>pyCrust.desktop</Filename>
<Merge type="menus" />
<Menuname>Web Development</Menuname>
<Menuname>Translation</Menuname>
<Menuname>X-KDE-KDevelopIDE</Menuname>
<Filename>kde4-cervisia.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>CMake.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>geany.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>java-monitoring-and-management-console.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>java-visualvm.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-kcachegrind.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-kompare.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-akonadiconsole.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-kuiviewer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>netbeans.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-kbugbuster.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>assistant.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>designer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-kapptemplate.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde4-umbrello.desktop</Filename>
</Layout>
</Menu>
</Menu>
*contents may vary
Now i have wine menu back :]
Last edited by bagheera (2010-03-15 13:01:08)faxmanloveswaffles wrote:bump?
Please don't do that. Please read the Forum Etiquette, in particular the section on bumping:
Posting a single word or useless message (bumping) to attract attention to your thread is not allowed. Do your own research, continue to troubleshoot, post the results, and be patient with the community. If people are reading your thread without answering or offering help, you may try supplying more details, or ask to be pointed in the right direction. Often, the reason for posts remaining unanswered is due in large part to the sparse details in the original post itself, or, the obvious availability of solutions in the wiki, on the forum or on the web, and the community's unwillingness to point out the obvious.
Last edited by 2ManyDogs (2012-10-28 19:47:06) -
Undo is not working properly (grayed out)
Undo is not working properly in Indesign CC 9.2. I am using a 17" MBP running OSX 10.9.1.
Processor: 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory: 4GB 1333 MHz DDR3
I ran into this issue doing a publication layout. I was not doing anything overly complicated. Copying/pasting, placing images, adding text boxes, copying/pasting text boxes. It seems to happen without rhyme or reason.
I know that is not helpful for troubleshooting so I was able to isolate the problem. Here is how to recreate it.
Open new doc (standard letter)
Create text box with random text
copy the text box (cmd C)
paste the text box (cmd V)
move the resulting text box using selection tool (V)
select NEW text box (selection tool)
copy the NEW text box (cmd C)
paste the NEW text box (cmd V)
move the text box (selection tool).
Repeat until there are 5 text boxes (at least).
Undo the various actions after placing and moving the 5 text boxes.
I cannot undo back to a "new document."
In some cases I can only undo 2 actions before "undo" becomes grayed out, and in some cases, I can undo up to 9 or 10 actions before it gets grayed out.
Other programs running:
Illustrator
Photoshop
Text Edit
MS Word 2011
Excell 2011
Messages
Chrome
Finder
Fetch (FTP software)
I need to have these programs running simultaneously in many cases and have done so successfully in the past. I have a feeling it might be a memory issue, but I have not seen a similar post and I never had the issue with CS5 running with an identical setup. I was able to undo actions up until my previous save in CS5 sometimes 25-30 actions.I unplugged the USB items and the problem still persisted so it is not related to any of those.
I shut down InDesign and tried reopening. InDesign crashed at reopen. I have provided the log below. Hopefully this shows where the problem is occurring.
Process: Adobe InDesign CC [3814]
Path: /Applications/Adobe InDesign CC/Adobe InDesign CC.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CC
Identifier: com.adobe.InDesign
Version: 9.2.0.69 (9200)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [172]
Responsible: Adobe InDesign CC [3814]
User ID: ***
Date/Time: 2014-01-27 11:58:37.300 -0800
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.1 (13B42)
Report Version: 11
Anonymous UUID: ********************
Sleep/Wake UUID: *********************
Crashed Thread: 8
Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information:
abort() called
*** error for object 0x6180002737c0: Heap corruption detected, free list canary is damaged
Thread 0:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af44622 __open_nocancel + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff8fa09c9b __opendir2$INODE64 + 59
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8d160d4a _CFIterateDirectory + 74
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8d1636b3 _CFBundleCopyInfoDictionaryInDirectoryWithVersion + 627
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8d16331d CFBundleGetInfoDictionary + 141
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8d15fb5b _CFBundleCreate + 827
6 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8d1a3e89 _CFBundleEnsureBundleExistsForImagePath + 89
7 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8d24bb93 _CFBundleEnsureAllBundlesUpToDateAlreadyLocked + 67
8 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8d1a3bf8 CFBundleGetBundleWithIdentifier + 248
9 com.adobe.InDesign.AWS 0x000000011667d2bc 0x116676000 + 29372
10 com.adobe.InDesign.AWS 0x000000011667a577 0x116676000 + 17783
11 com.adobe.InDesign.AWS 0x000000011667a370 0x116676000 + 17264
12 com.adobe.InDesign.AWS 0x00000001166772a7 0x116676000 + 4775
13 com.adobe.InDesign.AWS 0x0000000116683fb0 0x116676000 + 57264
14 com.adobe.InDesign.AWS 0x000000011668472e 0x116676000 + 59182
15 com.adobe.InDesign.AWSUI 0x0000000116646597 0x116636000 + 66967
16 com.adobe.InDesign.AWSUI 0x0000000116645f05 0x116636000 + 65285
17 com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework 0x000000010d6739bb 0x10d632000 + 268731
18 ObjectModelLib.dylib 0x0000000104b2fcd3 0x104b10000 + 130259
19 ObjectModelLib.dylib 0x0000000104b4306c 0x104b10000 + 209004
20 ObjectModelLib.dylib 0x0000000104b3e3fc ShuksanInit(IStartupScreen* (*)(), IPlugIn*) + 7676
21 com.adobe.InDesign 0x0000000100001c7e main + 94
22 com.adobe.InDesign 0x0000000100001bb4 start + 52
Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af45662 kevent64 + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff9067043d _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 239
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff90670152 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 52
Thread 2:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af44716 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97874c77 _pthread_cond_wait + 787
2 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x00007fff92a51c37 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 148
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x00007fff92a2238d MPWaitOnQueue + 192
4 PMRuntime.dylib 0x0000000101682be1 0x101681000 + 7137
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x00007fff92a2290b PrivateMPEntryPoint + 58
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97872899 _pthread_body + 138
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9787272a _pthread_start + 137
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97876fc9 thread_start + 13
Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af44e6a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97873f08 _pthread_wqthread + 330
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97876fb9 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 4:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af4534a fstat$INODE64 + 10
1 IMSLib.dylib 0x0000000119a3d2dd 0x1199c0000 + 512733
2 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199f3616 0x1199c0000 + 210454
3 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199f39ef 0x1199c0000 + 211439
4 IMSLib.dylib 0x0000000119a1f3c8 0x1199c0000 + 390088
5 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199f328d 0x1199c0000 + 209549
6 IMSLib.dylib 0x0000000119a2ebdf 0x1199c0000 + 453599
7 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199f64f0 0x1199c0000 + 222448
8 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199f894b 0x1199c0000 + 231755
9 IMSLib.dylib 0x0000000119a3fc0e 0x1199c0000 + 523278
10 IMSLib.dylib 0x0000000119a40a0b 0x1199c0000 + 526859
11 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199ea34e 0x1199c0000 + 172878
12 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199ded11 0x1199c0000 + 126225
13 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199d37ef 0x1199c0000 + 79855
14 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199e3851 0x1199c0000 + 145489
15 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199da4f1 0x1199c0000 + 107761
16 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199cce14 0x1199c0000 + 52756
17 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97872899 _pthread_body + 138
18 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9787272a _pthread_start + 137
19 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97876fc9 thread_start + 13
Thread 5:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af44e6a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97873f08 _pthread_wqthread + 330
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97876fb9 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 6:: com.apple.NSURLConnectionLoader
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af40a1a mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af3fd18 mach_msg + 64
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8d1b0315 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 181
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8d1af939 __CFRunLoopRun + 1161
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8d1af275 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 309
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff975a1907 +[NSURLConnection(Loader) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 348
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff975a170b __NSThread__main__ + 1318
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97872899 _pthread_body + 138
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9787272a _pthread_start + 137
9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97876fc9 thread_start + 13
Thread 7:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af44e6a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97873f08 _pthread_wqthread + 330
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97876fb9 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 8 Crashed:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af44866 __pthread_kill + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9787335c pthread_kill + 92
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff8fa39bba abort + 125
3 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff919a5bf9 nanozone_error + 486
4 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff919a5dbb _nano_malloc_check_clear + 445
5 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff919a46c4 nano_malloc + 35
6 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff919a287c malloc_zone_malloc + 71
7 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff919a3290 malloc + 42
8 libc++abi.dylib 0x00007fff90c5853e operator new(unsigned long) + 30
9 libstdc++.6.dylib 0x00007fff8f47d0be std::string::_Rep::_S_create(unsigned long, unsigned long, std::allocator<char> const&) + 102
10 libstdc++.6.dylib 0x00007fff8f47d00d std::string::_Rep::_M_clone(std::allocator<char> const&, unsigned long) + 35
11 libstdc++.6.dylib 0x00007fff8f47dae6 std::string::reserve(unsigned long) + 62
12 libstdc++.6.dylib 0x00007fff8f47de3b std::string::append(char const*, unsigned long) + 101
13 IMSLib.dylib 0x0000000119a414fb 0x1199c0000 + 529659
14 IMSLib.dylib 0x0000000119a416a2 0x1199c0000 + 530082
15 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199ea192 0x1199c0000 + 172434
16 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199ded11 0x1199c0000 + 126225
17 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199d37ef 0x1199c0000 + 79855
18 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199e3851 0x1199c0000 + 145489
19 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199da4f1 0x1199c0000 + 107761
20 IMSLib.dylib 0x00000001199cce14 0x1199c0000 + 52756
21 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97872899 _pthread_body + 138
22 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9787272a _pthread_start + 137
23 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97876fc9 thread_start + 13
Thread 9:: com.apple.CFSocket.private
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af449aa __select + 10
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8d1fbd43 __CFSocketManager + 867
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97872899 _pthread_body + 138
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff9787272a _pthread_start + 137
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97876fc9 thread_start + 13
Thread 10:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8af44e6a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97873f08 _pthread_wqthread + 330
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff97876fb9 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 8 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x0000000000000000 rbx: 0x0000000119dfa000 rcx: 0x0000000119df8958 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x0000000000007c13 rsi: 0x0000000000000006 rbp: 0x0000000119df8980 rsp: 0x0000000119df8958
r8: 0x0000000000000000 r9: 0x0000000000000000 r10: 0x0000000008000000 r11: 0x0000000000000206
r12: 0x0000000104bf7000 r13: 0x00006180002737c0 r14: 0x0000000000000006 r15: 0x0000000000000000
rip: 0x00007fff8af44866 rfl: 0x0000000000000206 cr2: 0x00000001083c9000
Logical CPU: 0
Error Code: 0x02000148
Trap Number: 133
Binary Images:
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List of forum editor issues and bugs
This thread is work in progress. Please report additional bugs and issues you are aware off. I will try to reproduce the issue and add your information to the appropriate columns below. Thanks!
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Issue
Date
Summary
Browser
Status
Remark
1
08-Jan-2014
last verified
24-Aug-2014
Text copied from discussions, such as code, result in double line spacing when copied to the host system.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
open
open
fixed
fixed
1.1
1.2
2
08-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Cannot append text or code to Syntax Highlighting.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
fixed
fixed
fixed
fixed
3
08-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Cannot properly select text or code with Syntax Highlighting.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
improved
fixed
fixed
fixed
3.1
4
08-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Subsequent edit sessions add empty lines to Syntax Highlighting code.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
fixed
fixed
fixed
fixed
5
08-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Copying text under Syntax Highlighting includes line numbers.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
improved
open
fixed
fixed
5.1
5.2
6
08-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Cannot copy and paste the whole Syntax Highlighting frame.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
improved
fixed
improved
improved
6.1
6.3
6.3
7
09-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Syntax Highlighting suppresses empty lines and white space when browsing.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
fixed
fixed
fixed
fixed
8
08-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Syntax Highlighting overwrites font.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
improved
improved
improved
improved
8.1
8.1
8.1
8.1
9
09-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Cannot paste any text into the editor window.
Firefox
Internet Explorer 11
Safari
Chrome
working
fixed
working
working
10
09-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Cannot change the font when selecting several lines of text.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
improved
working
fixed
improved
10.1
10.1
11
09-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Changing the font gets confused and shows the wrong font.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
improved
working
open
open
11.1
11.3
11.3
12
09-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Pasting a URL captures the text insertion point.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
fixed
fixed
fixed
fixed
13
16-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Quoting captures insertion point.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
fixed
fixed
fixed
fixed
14
24-Jan-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Adding HTML label tag for no apparent reason.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
fixed
fixed
fixed
fixed
15
28-Feb-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Undo disables functions, such as Quote and Syntax Highlighting and results in complete loss of text when attempting to post.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
Improved
working
working
working
15.1
16
28-Feb-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
Syntax Highlighting shows several <span> when browsing.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
fixed
fixed
fixed
fixed
17
23-Jun-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
When specifying a table width, typed numbers are falling through and land the table as text.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
open
open
open
open
18
23-Aug-2014
Quoting of content with Syntax Highlighting looks fine when editing, but when posting, quoting around SH is removed.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
open
open
open
open
19
22-Aug-2014
Text like "Patch 11.2.0.3" are converted to non-functional hyperlinks when posting.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
open
open
open
open
20
20-Jul-2014
last verified23-Aug-2014
The editor toolbar disappears behind the forum banner when scrolling to the next page.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
open
open
open
open
21
17-Nov-2014
Insertion point displayed in text under Syntax Highlighting is not showing the real position.
Firefox
open
22
23-Aug-2014
Hover-up and pop-up menus are in the way then typing text in tables and code under Syntax Highlighting.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
open
open
open
open
23
23-Aug-2014
Copying text from the first post of a thread includes a grey background.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
working
working
open
open
24
24-Aug-2014
Copy and paste does not retain the size of a picture and resizing produces bad quality images. Resizing also no longer shows picture dimensions. Copying images between documents does not copy size settings.
Firefox
Internet Explorer
Safari
Chrome
open
open
open
open
25
17-Nov-2014
Copying and pasting of text determine the source format and creates unwanted or useless tables, affecting also Syntax Highlighting.
Firefox
open
26
17-Nov-2014
Adding additional rows to tables do not inherit the previous cell formats, such as vertical and horizontal center line.
Firefox
working
27
02-Dec-2014
The Jive spell-checker is difficult to use. Pointing and clicking of marked text has to be very precise in order to function, or the spell-checker deactivates itself.
Firefox
open
Ref. No.
Remarks
1.1
Pasting of regular text results in double-line spacing. Pasting of code with Syntax Highlighting does not produce double-line spacing, but includes line numbers when pasting in a rich text editor window, or results in indented lines when pasting to the command prompt or plain text window.
1.2
Pasting of code with Syntax Highlighting includes line numbers when pasting into notepad or to the command prompt. Copying of normal text does not wrap and appears a single line when pasting into notepad.
3.1
Selecting of code and copying works, but selected text looks like a tape and is not visible.
5.1
Copy works find and does not include line numbers, but the text is indented.
When pasting text into a rich text enabled editor window, it includes line numbers.
5.2
Code in syntax highlighting does not copy blank lines, but copies line numbers.
6.1
Only parts of a code segment can be copied, but not the complete code segment. Copy and paste always copies an additional line that was actually not selected.
6.3
Copy and paste only copies the code but not syntax highlighting, which can however be can be re-applied.
8.1
Applying syntax highlighting now applies a font that is suitable for displaying code.
However, it is not possible to change the font, if necessary, or apply color or bold or highlighting. Color can be applied, which looks like double-vision, but anyway is removed when posting.
10.1
Not working reliably. Sometimes the last line selected is not changed, or only the first line changes.
11.1
Sometimes fonts are not displayed properly, for instance, the text insertion point may show Arial, but the text is Courier. There is no clear pattern when this happens or what triggers the problem.
11.3
The text insertion point or selected text always reports the font name "font family", regardless of the font applied.
15.1
Ctrl-z aborting editor functions under Firefox on Mac OS X. However, Cmd-z, which is standard, works properly. This problem does not affect Safari.
Issue
Steps to reproduce
Workaround
1
Copy a couple or more lines of text from a discussion window and paste it into any application or document on your host system. For instance:
The following may produce double line spacing:
If there are two or more ways to do something, and one of those
ways can result in a catastrophe, then someone will do it.
The following should work correctly:
If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will
cause the most damage will be the first one to go wrong
Use Shift-Return instead of Return to terminate the end of lines when creating text.
Use a different browser to perform cut and paste operations, such as Apple Safari or Google Chrome.
2
Paste some text code into the forum editor window. Select the code and choose Syntax Highlighting:Plain from the editor toolbar (>>). Close and re-edit the thread. It is not possible to place the insertion point below the block of code in order to add any additional lines of code or to add any normal text. For instance:
mknod compress_pipe p
mknod export_pipe p
chmod +rw export_pipe compress_pipe
nohup split -b 8192m < export_pipe &
nohup gzip < compress_pipe > export_pipe &
exp system/passwd full=y direct=y consistent=y compress=n \
buffer=10485760 file=compress_pipe
It is possible to insert additional code or text below Syntax Highlighting, provided the frame it is not the end, as shown in issue 7.
Add any line of text at the end of your code before applying Syntax Highlighting to the lines above.
Adding code within the frame of Syntax Highlighting works in Safari and Google Chrome.
3
Re-edit a post with Syntax Highlighting. It is not possible to properly select any lines of code. An additional empty code line is added and the focus is shifted. The selection mask does not match the actual text. It is pretty much impossible to re-edit Syntax Highlighting.
Screenshot: http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6121/viun.jpg
Use Safari or Google Chrome when to re-edit text or code under Syntax Highlighting.
4
Every subsequent edit of a post with Syntax Highlighting adds an empty blank line to the code block with an incremented line number. The resulting empty lines (07, 08) shown in the screenshot cannot be selected or removed unless there is text below the code frame as shown in issue 7. Screenshot: http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5514/cxkd.jpg
Removing of empty lines woks in Safari and Google Chrome.
5
When browsing code with Syntax Highlighting, it is not possible to select the code without the line numbers. Screenshot: http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6626/j7n7.jpg
Select and copy each line separately. Or use Firefox or Google Chrome, but note issue in Remark 5.
6
When editing, it is possible to copy and paste lines under Syntax Highlighting when selecting the lines, but not when selecting the complete Syntax Highlighting frame.
Carefully select text without the Syntax Highlighting frame boundaries.
7
Empty lines and white space (identation) in Syntax Highlighting are suppressed when browsing, although they exist in the actual post. For instance:
mknod compress_pipe p
mknod export_pipe p
Screenshot when editing the above code:
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/673/kmy4.jpg
8
Syntax Highlighting changes the font to Arial and it is not possible to apply something more suitable for the displaying of code, such as fixed-width Courier New.
mknod compress_pipe p
Arial: 1l0OI
Courier New: 1l0OI
Arial: 1l0OI
Courier New: 1l0OI
9
It is not possible to paste any text into the editor window.
Use a different web browser or downgrade to IE 10.
Or enable F12 Developer Tools from the Tools menu. Press Ctrl-8
Change the default document mode from Edge to IE 10. Select Leave this page.
10
Create a new thread and type several lines of text. Then select select several lines of text and choose a font, e.g. Courier New. Not all selected lines are changed and only a couple of lines remain highlighted. For instance:
It is difficult to prove the existence of aliens.
Photos exist with aliens, but they could be fake.
On the other hand, photos without aliens could be fake too.
11
Select a line of text and change the font to Courier New. Then select the line again and it will show Arial. Change the font to Courier New and the text will change back to Arial.
12
Copy a URL and paste it into the editor window. The URL will be shown as a hyperlink using blue text. It is not possible to continue with normal writing without changing the text of the link. The text insertion point is captured inside the text of the link when trying to click below the link.
After pasting the URL, use the arrow key or mouse to move the cursor to the end of the link, then press RETURN and start writing normally. You can than move the cursor to the beginning of the line and use BACKSPACE to move the text up, after the link.
13
When replying to a thread and pressing the Quote Previous Message button and then clicking inside the quoted text, for instance, to remove some of the content, it is sometimes no longer possible to move the text insertion point outside of the quoted text back to the normal editing area.
When this happens it helps to switch to HTML and then switch back to the Full Editor.
14
While writing normal text in the editor, it sometimes becomes impossible to edit a line of text. When clicking on any text to move the text insertion point, it selects the complete paragraph instead. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/585/d0v5.jpg. When pressing the "Post Message" button, a dialog appears to "Stay" or "Leave" the page.
Apparently the editor adds HTML label tags for no apparent reason, which can be seen when switching the editor to HTML mode. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/199/1r5a.jpg
15
Copy some text into the editor window. Select the text and choose Syntax Highlighting form the >> insert toolbar. Undo using Ctrl-z. It is no longer possible to use any of the >> insert functions. After that it is also not possible to post the message, resulting in an unexpected error and the content is lost.
16
Syntax Highlighting shows several <span> at the beginning and end of the Syntax Highlighting block after posting. This affects old and new posts.
17
When changing the width of a table column, entering the 2nd number gets punched into the cell content instead.
After entering the first number, click in the entry field again to enter the 2nd number.
18
19
Automatic insertion of links to support.oracle.com contains more info, including responses from Oracle staff.
20
Change the width of browser window until the editor toolbar appears. It will then stay on top when scrolling through pages.
21
Select Syntax Highlighting, Plain from the >> insert menu, then copy and past several lines of text (code) into it. Or, copy and paste the text, then mark the text with the mouse and select SH from the insert menu. Many times, the insertion point is not reflecting it's actual position when you click inside the text. Very often it is also not possible to position the insertion point to the end or beginning of a line using the left and right arrow keys; the insertion point jumps to the next line, even though the end of the line has not been reached.
For instance:
The text insertion point [|] is showing up between the words "point" and "is", but when pressing the delete key or entering text, it affects a different area.
22
The following is a picture with text and Syntax Highlighting.
In tables, pressing the delete key will remove or rearrange the hover-up window.
23
The original or initial post of a thread is shown with a grey background when browsing. Depending on the web browser application, this background is also copied when doing a copy and paste of the text, provided the target window supports rich text editing.
Change the target editor window to plain text.
24
After resizing a pasted image to the same size than the original, the quality is much worse. The following shows a screenshot of the original and copied image:
When resizing a picture by moving the image end-points, the editor does no longer show the current picture dimensions (pixel x pixel) as it did in Jive 5. Also when copying a picture between documents, the picture is enlarged and requires resizing.
25
Copy and paste content from /etc/oratab, for example:
The same also happens when pasting the text into a Syntax Highlighting field.
It is often necessary to use undo (ctrl-z, cmd-z) to get rid of the mess.
26
Please see below screenshot:
27
Message was edited by: Dude!moniquevdb_oracle wrote:
Holy.... wow, this is helpful, thank you so much for kicking this off, Dude!
BluShadow I know you are in favor of reenabling code formatting and ditching the Syntax Highlighter altogether. I've also heard that users would prefer the advanced editor to open by default. Anything else on the wishlist?
correction, I would certainly be in favour (favor to you ) of reenabling code tags, mainly because I work quicker by copy/paste and by keyboard than by having to click through a load of buttons (that currently don't do what they should). I've not said that syntax highlighting should be ditched altogether, and I'd certainly be in favour of it being there, just so long as it provided a decent formatting that was appropriate, so code actually looked like code, and the ability for people to copy/paste the code out of the forum to their own environment wasn't corrupted with double line spacing (as dude has already mentioned) and the addition of the line numbers it puts in (the line numbers are useful for reference on the forum, e.g. when we want to say "you're problem is on line X", but not good when you copy/paste code out to your environment and have to spend ages deleting them all to get the code to do anything). If it's too difficult, then removing the line numbers from the code formatting would be preferable to having them there and not being able to copy the code out without them.
I agree with dude that it would be good to be able to highlight portions of code with bold or colours, which the old forum didn't allow, but this one does, so it's really a combination of old and new that's needed. And as dude highlights, the supressing of blank lines is a pain as it can make the posting of multiple code commands become all compressed and difficult to read, and is not representative of what we have in our interfaces such as SQL*Plus etc.
Basic example:
Copy paste from my SQL*Plus window into the forum (and me applying courier new and quoting it)...
SQL> select * from emp;
EMPNO ENAME JOB MGR HIREDATE SAL COMM DEPTNO
7369 SMITH CLERK 7902 17-DEC-1980 00:00:00 800 20
7499 ALLEN SALESMAN 7698 20-FEB-1981 00:00:00 1600 300 30
7521 WARD SALESMAN 7698 22-FEB-1981 00:00:00 1250 500 30
7566 JONES MANAGER 7839 02-APR-1981 00:00:00 2975 20
7654 MARTIN SALESMAN 7698 28-SEP-1981 00:00:00 1250 1400 30
7698 BLAKE MANAGER 7839 01-MAY-1981 00:00:00 2850 30
7782 CLARK MANAGER 7839 09-JUN-1981 00:00:00 2450 10
7788 SCOTT ANALYST 7566 19-APR-1987 00:00:00 3000 20
7839 KING PRESIDENT 17-NOV-1981 00:00:00 5000 10
7844 TURNER SALESMAN 7698 08-SEP-1981 00:00:00 1500 0 30
7876 ADAMS CLERK 7788 23-MAY-1987 00:00:00 1100 20
7900 JAMES CLERK 7698 03-DEC-1981 00:00:00 950 30
7902 FORD ANALYST 7566 03-DEC-1981 00:00:00 3000 20
7934 MILLER CLERK 7782 23-JAN-1982 00:00:00 1300 10
14 rows selected.
SQL> select * from dept;
DEPTNO DNAME LOC
10 ACCOUNTING NEW YORK
20 RESEARCH DALLAS
30 SALES CHICAGO
40 OPERATIONS BOSTON
SQL>
but in my SQL*Plus window it looks like.
SQL> select * from emp;
EMPNO ENAME JOB MGR HIREDATE SAL COMM DEPTNO
7369 SMITH CLERK 7902 17-DEC-1980 00:00:00 800 20
7499 ALLEN SALESMAN 7698 20-FEB-1981 00:00:00 1600 300 30
7521 WARD SALESMAN 7698 22-FEB-1981 00:00:00 1250 500 30
7566 JONES MANAGER 7839 02-APR-1981 00:00:00 2975 20
7654 MARTIN SALESMAN 7698 28-SEP-1981 00:00:00 1250 1400 30
7698 BLAKE MANAGER 7839 01-MAY-1981 00:00:00 2850 30
7782 CLARK MANAGER 7839 09-JUN-1981 00:00:00 2450 10
7788 SCOTT ANALYST 7566 19-APR-1987 00:00:00 3000 20
7839 KING PRESIDENT 17-NOV-1981 00:00:00 5000 10
7844 TURNER SALESMAN 7698 08-SEP-1981 00:00:00 1500 0 30
7876 ADAMS CLERK 7788 23-MAY-1987 00:00:00 1100 20
7900 JAMES CLERK 7698 03-DEC-1981 00:00:00 950 30
7902 FORD ANALYST 7566 03-DEC-1981 00:00:00 3000 20
7934 MILLER CLERK 7782 23-JAN-1982 00:00:00 1300 10
14 rows selected.
SQL> select * from dept;
DEPTNO DNAME LOC
10 ACCOUNTING NEW YORK
20 RESEARCH DALLAS
30 SALES CHICAGO
40 OPERATIONS BOSTON
SQL>
Obviously that's a basic example; in reality we can be providing a solution to someone, explaining multiple steps and commands to demonstrate their issue and the solution, and having to go back through the code once we've pasted it adding back in all the line spacings, is a real pain and time consuming.
Certainly, having the advanced editor options available immediately for replying would be better than having to switch to it manually, especially as most people using these forums are going to want to paste code in (what with it being a technical forum and not really a social forum), and the basic editor just doesn't allow for any suitable code formatting (unless the person is mad enough to switch to HTML mode).
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