Keyword consolidation

Can anyone offer any help, suggestions, erm... plugins?
Over the last few years I've built myself an extensive keyword hierarchy in Lightroom - several thousand keywords in it - works well for me.  Since LR3 is able to handle larger catalogs, I've recently imported my pre-lightroom images.  Import worked fine, the only problem is these images were keyworded prior to having a keyword hierarchy.  This means that all the keywords have appeared at the top-level of the hierarchy.  I now have literally thousands of duplicate keywords in my catalog.  And in for reasons I won't bore you with several hundred triplicate keywords, all of which need to be consolodated.  In fact there are so may duplicates at the top level that I the list is longer than lightroom can display in the panel.
Because the 'duplicates' are at the top level finding the duplicates is easy.  Here's the steps I'm taking to consolodate the keywords.....
1. look at duplicate keyword in the top level.
2. Click the arrow to display the images assigned to the duplicate keyword
3. type the keyword name into the "filter keywords" box
4. locate the master keyword from the list of filtered keywords (this only works providing the duplicate keyword isn't a synonym as there is a current bug that prevents synonyms from being filtered this way - that bug really isn't helping this!).
5. Drag the images from the grid onto the master keyword.
6. Delete the duplicate keyword from the top level
As an estimate I have at least 3000 duplicates/triplicates that I need to consolodate.  Providing I don't mis-click or mis-type the above process takes about 70secs per consolodation.  By my estimate that would take 60 hours of clicking and typing to complete the consolodation.
Can anyone suggest any ways to speed this up?  I've looked at Rob Coles keyword consolidator, but that just tells me what needs consolodating and doesn't actually do any of the work.  (In my case I already know which keywords need consolodating - it is manually doing the work that is the problem.
Thanks,
Ian

3bells wrote:
I'm wondering if your KeywordConsolidator would work with Lightroom 4?
In a word: Yes , but please contact me directly if any issues spring up - thanks:
PM: http://forums.adobe.com/people/areohbee
or: http://www.robcole.com/Rob/ContactMe
R

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    From: Rob Cole
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