Intercompany Eliminations in Consolidation

Trying to use the existing logic(Initialize_elim and Eliminate_org) from 5.1MS for Inter-Company Eliminations in 7.5NW.
Not sure what's the equivalent keyword for CPE( common parent elimination) in 7.5NW for the following 5.1MS logic:
*WHEN CPE(INTCODIM.COMPANY,ENTITYDIM,%ThisOrg%,ELIM)
Any help is highly appreciated.
Thx
KV

Hi KV,
I believe that the NW equivalent to the basic inter-company elimination you are talking about is the US Elimination business rules. You can read about it at the following link on help.sap.com, and there is example script logic: [http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bpc75_nw/helpdata/en/9a/cb23d5c32047fbbeb625dbcaccb42a/frameset.htm]
If you are doing this as part of a full consolidation, the full automatic adjustment business rules are also available in the NW version. Most of the stored procedures are actually recreated on the Netweaver side in ABAP as built-in programs, but they have a slightly different script logic syntax and may require some changes to your dimension properties.
Ethan

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I have a doubt on Elimination in Consolidation rule.
Following is the scenario coppied from comma.rle from Comma application(Sample Applications)
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Hi Forum,
I have a few basic questions around IC Elims, that I want to get other experts opinions on.
1. What are all of the options for IC elims?
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I just want to understand how others get around this, as my knowledge on using Business Rules for IC elims is limited. So I need to understand how the users will be able to see where IC elims are going to/coming from. From what I can tell IC elims will post to a datasource, but does that give the user the ability to see where the Elim came from or went to?
Anyone?
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Edited by: Michael Hutchins on Mar 11, 2009 4:05 PM
Edited by: Michael Hutchins on Mar 16, 2009 8:09 PM

Hello Mike
Question 1
Another way to do elims is to use the same account for both intercompany debits and credits. . The sign that you enter for a counterparty determines whether it is a debit or a credit. This approach will then self eliminate intercompany balances at all levels in the roll-up and it is not necessary to set up elimination rules. The intercompany reporting is then used for merely running mismatch reports and this can be made to be self-policing by the units entering the data. It works particularly well for intercompany payables/receivable, loans payable/receivable, interest payable/receivable, dividends paid/received. Any balance left at group level is the net mismatch on that account and can be analysed on the mismatch report.
Question 2
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Hi,
i would like to know for inter-company eliminations we have Business rules and script logic , can we achieve the elimination process with either one of the process or do we need both.
Also what is the difference between US eliminations and auto eliminations.
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PP

Hello,
You could achieve the eliminations with either one or the other.
In bot cases you will need a logic file. If running the business rules you will need a logic file to trigger the program. If using script you will store in the logic file itself.
Using the business rules is more efficient (uses ABAP program) and understandable/maintainable for the end user.
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http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/7070134c-1b04-2d10-f29d-bbb35abfa119
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Is it possible to implement Intercompany functionality as well as legal consolidation (for the proportional, global and equity adjustments) without intercompany eliminations being exected at time of legal consolidation?

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