Keywording improvements?

Im manually going through all my keywords and checking to make sure they will export since there was some problem in the past that checked them all to not be included on export. Very fun! thanks.
I have some sugestions for improvment in the keyword section.
1. When adding synonyms if you add a coma after the last word you get an error message that says "a non-empty word must be included." Very intutive message. How about just remov the extra coma or somthing.
2. When I find a misspelled word and try to correct it I get the message that the word alreadey exist. (because it does) there should be some way to correct the misspelled word and merge it(the images tagged with it) to the correct word
Spell check and a thausarus to add synonyms would be very handy.

Hi bradengunem,
ad 2: How to merge a mis-spelled keyword with the existing correct one:
Select all images labelled with the mis-spelled KW, apply the correct one to all of them as well,
then edit your KW-list and remove the mis-spelled one. LR will warn you how many images will loose this tag, but you just acknowledge, since you have just taken care about that.
Ok, not too convenient, but not too cumbersome either.
For general handling I consider Thomas' suggestion excellent - just might need to be tweaked if you have several thousands of KWs.
Cornelia

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Keyword Bugs and Some Keywording Improvement / Feature Suggestions

Tagging Bugs and Some Improvement / Feature Suggestions
Please excuse where I should use the word Tag or Keyword or vice versa!
1.       BUG?    If a tag synonym is added or changed then all affected photos should be marked for re-publish. I do not think this currently happens.   Should this possibly be considered a bug?
2.       BUG?    When viewing a smart collection in a Flickr publish service and a new tag is added to a photo it is correctly moved to the “requires re-publish” section.   However … the thumb selection in the grid moves to the next photo, the loop view remains on the photo just tagged and the key wording still reflects the just tagged photo.    The selection shown in the grid appears to be wrong.      When working quickly this can result in tagging errors as the user looking on the grid believes he is working on the next highlighted photo in the grid.      This is surely a bug?
3.       BUG?      A minor point and I realise this is probably not the correct way to do things … but a double word synonym entered with quotes for example “Ice Climbing” will create two tags “Ice” and “Climbing” at the flicker end of things.    Removal of this synonym and forcing a re-publish does not delete these two tags at the flicker end of things.    I may have miss-understood, but perhaps it is best for LR not to allow quoted tags?
4.       SUGGESTION      An easier and more powerful way to review tagging of current photos should be provided whereby it is possible to clearly see the current tagging of a photo and have immediate access to the keyword list at the same time to make corrections.    Having both the Keywording and Keyword List panels open in Library mode results in a lot of up and down scrolling for me and is a slightly inelegant UI in my opinion.   I would suggest it should at very least be possible to have the tags viewable in Loop info as an option - so long as no truncation is made and all tags visible.    Ideally a better way should be sought.
5.       SUGGESTION      It would be very useful when reviewing tagging to select to show all photos in the currently selected folder or set which do not contain the selected tag.    Note, I don’t think this can be easily achieved by using a keyword filter and selecting all keywords and unselecting the tag of interest as the pictures may have many tags.    The same might be performed by textual based searches but this is inelegant and its slowness precludes a browsing approach.     For example – for me it would be useful to look at all my mountain shots in a trip which have not been tagged with “Glacier” and it will be immediately visually apparent where I need to make tagging corrections.    I would suggest a “Not” checkbox is made available on the top of each column in the library filter – this may also provide a great deal of power for other situations.
6.       SUGGESTION      It would be useful to allow a means of showing all pictures with a certain tag but which have not been tagged yet with any children of said tag.   For example all pictures tagged with Glacier which I have not yet named the glacier by introducing a relevant child tag or selecting an existing child tag.    A similar situation occurs for wildlife and potentially many other scenarios … I would like to use a tag “Butterfly” which I can quickly use on my first pass… and then do the identification and child tagging on a second pass using appropriate filtering.   This allows for a step wise or “top down” approach to tag classifying things in a workflow.    I appreciate this can be achieved (as I do now) by using a child tag called “Unnamed butterfly” or “Unnamed Glacier” but it seems more powerful, elegant and generically applicable to be able to filter on a “not tagged with a child” basis.
I apologise if I have missed the point on some existing functionality on any of these points and welcome any suggestions.

This is a great post.
I couldn't have written it myself better.
I'm also in dying need of Korean input as I can't communicate with my Korean friends.
But I second every point.
I hope the tech teams are reading this.

Advise appreciated for some keywording issues

I've been working on the road for a while and have several catalogues set up. The main one on my desktop iMac has many of the hierarchies set up correctly
iMac
jockeys
fred
kevin
horses
Desert Orchid
Zenyetta
etc
but I made the mistake on my laptop of not setting the hierarchies up correctly
on the laptop
kevin
fred
Bert
Sam
jockeys
horses
Desert Orchid
Zenyetta
etc
When I copied the laptop catalogue to my imac, I realised I have a problem
Desert Orchid
kevin
fred
Bert
Sam
jockeys fred
horses
Desert Orchid
Zenyetta
For example,
As Fred was already in the original catalogue and in the correct hierarchy, he's now appeared twice, as does Zenyetta, and others many others.....
I now have about 120 horses scattered across the "root" and the correctly keyword folder / category what ever and a few less of the mess of the jockey.
It is simple (hmmm) to select all the images tagged Fred in the root keyword, and then select them all and tag them with the
jockeys fred
keyword and then remove the
fred
from the root, thus correctly updating the keyword, however, its very cumbersome and so far I've wiped all the keywords from the images of 2 jockeys from my correctly keyworded keyword collection (UNGH) due to getting confused over what I was doing.....
Is there a more simple way to select and drag around keywords into new hierarchies reducing the risk of more deletions of keywords from images?
I've commented on a keyword improvement thread (link) in the new forums for suggestions etc, but that does not help me at the moment.
Any suggestions would be muchly appreciated.
Hamish
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/better_keyword_management/replies/60 07860

Hmmm.. Well, my suggestion proabably isn't the best, but...
First, fix the keyword structure on your laptop. Just drag the keywords around, you don't have to select/deslect the images. Then re-do the import, but don't include negatives. It *should* update the meta tags and update all your keywords to match what you want them to see without losing them all.
If that's not an option, then (if you don't know about this method) if you hover over the keywords in the panel to the right, you'll see a little arrow pop up on the right. Click that arrow, and it will filter all of the images based on that keyword. Then just scroll down to the correct keyword, and click on the box to the LEFT of the keyword (still on the right panel), and it will add that keyword to all those images. Then scroll back up (if necessary!) and uncheck (by clicking on the check box) of the one you don't want. Gone. Then remove the old keyword from your listing.
Cheers!

Could someone explain to me how categories and keywords work?

I have some questions with regard to iTunes U categories and keywords and would be grateful for any advice.
1. Is our RSS code (below)correct?
2. Does the category and sub category of each feed item have to match the category stated at channel level? This is quite important since we have items with different categories and sub categories within a single collection.
3. Is it compulsory to state a category at channel level and item level?
4. Is it worth adding a keywords element for each item and if so how do the keywords improve discoverability in iTunes U?
RSS Code -
In the channel element of our RSS feeds (collections) we’re stating the iTunes U category element like this (we can add a subcategory if required) –
<itunesu:category code="110" text="Social Science"/>
Within the item element we’re stating the category and sub category for each item, as per the example here - http://www.apple.com/itunes/podcasts/specs.html#category but with the addition of the itunesu code attribute - like this -
<itunesu:category code="101" text="Engineering">
<itunesu:category code="101101" text="Civil"/>
</itunesu:category>
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Improved keywording

Hi,
These are some requests/suggestions:
Please include a spell check for keywords (and other fields such as captions, etc.) on Windows format,
Please improve the keyword manager to make it easier to edit and add keywords, including:
ability to recognize an existing keyword's location in a heirachy when importing new keywords from an external file, (and if the keyword appears more than once, Lightroom could ask for confirmation, e.g. if "blue" appears under "color" and "mood", Lightoom will ask if whether the new keyword is under "color" or "mood" or both, or to create a new keyword. (similar to Timothy Armes' Keyword Master Plugin)
ability to recognise existing synonyms when importing new keywords and ask for confirmation whether to apply main keyword or create a new one
improve sorting capability (perhaps a separate window? for keyword management, with a structure similar to OS file management systems, i.e. two panes, left one with higher level keywords, right panel with contents of selected keyword)
increase number of words that can be held in a keyword set (just a nice-to have)
Spell checker (for all metadata!)
Thanks!
Andy

Andy,
I agree with all your suggestions for Keywords as well as adding additional search capabilities as specified many times on this forum.
As far as the spell-check is concerned, I have seen no indication that it is coming anytime soon for the PC so I use a utility downloaded from "spellcheckanywhere.com". Not sure if it is feasible to use for Keywords (as far as consuming time) as it requires a pop-up window to do the check - but for captions I find it works quite well. I assigned F12 as the hotkey. I have no affiliation with this utility other than being a user. It is not optimal, but it might be a short-term solution to your need. I am sure there are other equally qualified utilities as well.
Jeff

Request: improve "keyword suggestions"

More than anything I use LR to help make sure that I can keep my pictures systematically in order and with relevant keywords.
One thing I have never understood is why there is no filter to avoid duplicating "suggested" keywords, that already are shown in the existing keyword set.
This only "crowds out" space for useful suggestions that are not immidiately available in the current keyword set. And I cannot see, why anyone would like to have a keyword shown twice (both as a "suggested keyword" and in the current keyword set) in stead of having more (=a better) suggested keywords.
It should be really, really, easy to fix. And i am sure people would find it very useful in their daily work if they use lots of keywords. I sometimes have almost all the keywords in my existing set duplicated as "suggested" keywords, which is unproductive.

LR2 has two boxes for entering keywords: the old big multi-line one, and a smaller one below it. Keyword suggesting, as well as the Ctrl+K shortcut, moved to the new smaller box.
They could have left keyword suggesting in the old big box too (I still prefer it - probably got used), but for some reason they didn't.

Improving Search for Keywords in NI Example Finder

Search for Keywords is presently limited to logical "OR" search. It would highly profit from logical "AND" Search.

Thinking out of the box here...
It's possible to search just the bookmarks with a script. The problem is how to show the result, since it's not possible to highlight the found bookmarks.
One option I can think of is to change the color of the matches to a different color, like red. Unfortunately, this doesn't work in Reader...
The only other option that might work in Reader is to tell the user where to look, ie which position in the tree (and what items are before and after it).

Improved Keyword Searching Needed

One frustration I have with Lightroom is with the difficulty it has with dealing with spaces in keywords when trying to do searches. For example, if I have images with the keyword 'University of Michigan' (no primes around the keyword), I'm unable to find images with just the keyword 'University of Michigan'. Instead, I'll get things with University, Michigan, etc. The only solution at the present time seems to be to use underscores or something equivalent in multi-word keywords, but this seems silly and ugly. I should either be able to search for a quoted keyword and have the search complete, or Lightroom should use the comma as a keyword separator in the Find dialogs in the same manner as it is used when adding keywords. My main reason for using Lightroom was to be able to use its database-like features for keywording and finding images based on keywords (and other attributes). Dealing with multi-word keywords should be a simple fix and it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
James Howe

I'm trying to build a smart collection so I'm limited to searching for 'Contains', 'Contains Words', 'Contains All', 'Start With', 'Ends With'. No matter which option I select, I end up getting images which don't match. I only want to see images which have the specific keyword 'University of Michigan' (a multi-word keyword without the primes). However, the search treats this as a search for images with the individual keywords of 'University' 'of' and 'Michigan' and therefore finds images which not only have the keyword 'University of Michigan', but also any image which has keywords of 'University', 'of' and 'Michigan' (the results vary depending on which search criteria I pick). The important thing is that there is no query that I can come up with which *only* finds those images with the specific, single keyword of 'University of Michigan'. If I change the keyword to be 'University_of_Michigan', I can find that quite easily. The problem is with the inconsistent way that Lightroom treats spaces in keywords. If I go to the keywords entry field, I can enter something like:
Foo, Bar, Keyword with Spaces, Baz
and this will add four keywords to the image. However, when I try to find or build a smart collection based on keyword values, if I use the keyword
'Keyword with Spaces', the search algorithm treats this as three keywords, not a single keyword. Depending on the type of search selected (Contains, Contains Words, Contains All), the search engine will look for images with the keywords 'Keyword' AND 'with' AND 'Spaces' or 'Keywords' OR 'with' OR 'Spaces', etc. I believe that Contains Words comes closest, but in addition to finding images with the keyword 'Keyword with Spaces', it will also find images with the keyword 'Keywords with Spaces and other stuff'. If I try to quote the phrase, the search engine won't find it because the keyword wasn't defined with quotes (or primes). All that is needed to fix this is to provide some mechanism which allows the user to indicate that a collection of words should be treated as a single keyword, not a group of keywords.

Keyword Handling Needs Improvement - Too Easy To Create A Mess That's Too Hard To Clean Up

Presently, its easy to assign keywords and use them (other than "improper" handling of spaces I mean), - almost too easy. - easy to create a keyword mess.
Although I'm sure I haven't given anywhere near as much thought to the subject as some people have, here are my first thoughts at some features that would help:
- Proper handling of space character:
- Presently its used as a legal keyword character and a keyword delimiter - this just needs to be fixed!
- Detection of first use:
Presently, if I enter 'Robb Cole', I don't want a new keyword to be added, since I already have 'Rob Cole' - I would always like to be warned the first time a keyword is added, and given the opportunity to make a different choice or go ahead and add.
- Detection of duplicate:
If I enter 'Rob Cole', but I already have 'People/Rob Cole', I don't want a new keyword added, I want to be warned.
- Detection of similarities:
This is big topic, and includes handling of plurals and mispellings. I suspect there is some standard conventions for dealing with plurals, and I don't know what they are. But, if I enter Complection and that's not in the "dictionary", but Completion and Complexion are, I'd like to be notified and offered a list of choices, bringing me to my next idea: Dictionaries...
- Detection of synonyms: If I enter a keyword that's already a synonym of another keyword, I usually don't want to create a new keyword.
- Dictionaries: Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I import "Controlled Vocabulary" all the keywords will just be mixed in with whatever already exists. Likewise if I import photos from some other photographer, I now have their keywording paradigm all mixed in too. I'd like to have a Personal dictionary, and a "Controlled Vocabulary dictionary, and "From Imported Photos" dictionaries... And, I'd like to be able to set a preferred dictionary, such that when entering a keyword that's not in the preferred dictionary, I would be offered an opportunity to consolidate, or create a new dictionary, or add to existing dictionary...
- Because keyword search engines differ in the way they handle plurals, I would think the ability to automatically add a plural, and maybe even common mispellings as synonyms would be helpful as well.
- Better Tools for consolidation and re-organization would also be greatly beneficial and appreciated.
I will no doubt think of other things, but this should be enough to kick off this thread.
Rob

I couldn't wait: Keyword Consolidator.
R

Keyword entry interface improvements needed

1. Enable an optional full screen view of the entire keyword list, with expand/collapse function for the hierarchies, preferably with the expanded terms in a separate column adjoining the top level terms.
2. Make the keyword list stay in the spot the keyworder is working on, rather than jumping back to the top after a CR -- result is a timewaster of having to scroll down to hunt for the spot you were using.
3. Make keyword imports from Adobe Bridge go into the same hierarchy when it finds the same word, rather than starting a new top level term.
4. Make the grayed-out terms brighter -- they are next to invisible.
5. Make 2d level and lower terms when attached to an image automatically include the terms in the higher levels, not just when there is a duplicate term. Correct manual.

I'm going to go on a tangent here and say that we need better ways of quickly selecting and identifying specific keywords to apply to images. Exactly what that should look like could take different forms.

How Can I Improve the Readability of the Keyword List?

I've often wondered if you guys actually test this stuff in real-world conditions.
This white-on-gray and gray-on-gray (!) micro small font stuff may be the cool du jour UI look and work great for you bloodshot-eyed youngsters beavering away 24/7 in the bowels of Adobe Developer Central on your supermax workstation screens, but for us bifocal challenged 50+y/o codgers on deadline working in the field on ruggedized laptops in sunlit conditions, this is not a very time inefficient UI.
The Keyword List is particular painful to use since there are no keyboard shortcuts and we're forced to click on these microscopically small squares and read the keywords in what must be a 2pt font.
Other than stretching the left-panel container max left (which isn't very far), Is there ANY WAY to make the Keyword List more readable?

justjesper wrote:
Excelent question.
I have been searching around, and it looks like a lot of users is asking this question.
Where can I make Siri learn my accent ? Some users was talking about a feature where you could correct Siri so it would learn, but I have not been able to find it.
Nor have I, but it does seem to get better as I go along, so maybe it learns.

Lightroom Upgrade at a client - sucess? - keyword problem deal breaker

Hi
Just a small report, on how upgrading a client's LR 2 catalog went.
Background: The client is a professional photographer specialized on garden photography. Her customers are gardening and lifestyle magazines who publish her photos regularly as illustrations to various articles. She has a professional Canon EOS 1Ds MK III equipment and shoots exclusively raw. In a shoot around 300 to 1000 images are shot. The Lightroom catalog has around 20,000 images currently.
In Lightroom she uses mostly DAM and some basic development features, images are delivered either as raw of as JPEG images to the clients. Keywording is especially important. She has an extensive hierarchical list of plants most of them multiword keywords with spaces, and lots of other keywords indicating if images were sent to clients and other stuff.
The upgrade went just very well. I exported the catalog to a new intermediate catalog without previews, installed LR3 and imported this intermediate catalog into LR3 generating new previews from scratch. The hardware is modest, and some functional tests (especially switching images in develop, spot tool, and adjustment brushes) revealed that everything performs well enough.
Then she asked me where she would have benefits from using the new version. And then I told the whole benefit story, which can be read everywhere.
- New process version, better details and noise reduction. She asked where she can see it? Hmm, I switched to 1:1 view changing the process versions, not really much to see on Canon 1Ds Mk III files. Even with noisier files, it was hard to tell, what has actually changed. So only a 4:1 view very tiny changes were visible. The impact on her business? Near to nothing as she does not print large. The differences would hardly be seen in the magazine prints.
- Lens corrections and perspective control: does not really matter in garden photography, but she could see some occasional usefullness.
- Publish services: no real need for it
- Print packages: nope
- Slightshow improvements: no use for it
- Performance improvements: nothing visible
- Effects: completely superfluous
- New import dialog: at first glance a hindereance, as she has to get used to it
Then she asked: did they correct the keyword handling, when entering keywords witrh spaces? (You know the nasty bug, where keyword completion is broken at keywords with spaces). We checked (I knew it wasn't fixed), and of course she was heavily disappointed. Thus, after 2 years of development nothing new for her, keyword bug not fixed? Of course she said, that I should tell her, when keyword completion works, then and only then would she consider an upgrade.
So, despite all the bells and whistles about the new version, I doubt that for many photographers the benefits are really so overwhelming in the real world. It is a pitty that Adobe continues to neglect the DAM features (some fresh ideas for client management would be great), that existing features aren't consequently implemented (esp. the possibilities to query the catalog, and keywording), and that existing bugs are constantly ignored and not fixed.
So, please Adobe, get keyword completion fixed for keywords with spaces immediately !!! This is what professionals need. A catalog without reliable DAM features, renders the catalog concept to a great extend useless. Please listen!
Disclaimer: As I am not a professional for me the situation is not the same. I just report my experience I had, with a photgrapher, who needs a proper asset management. I recommended Lightroom to her because of the overall package (she moved from Cumulus), so I feel a little obliged to help her in this issue. In my case, as a user of a modest Lumix G camera system, I would consider the IQ benefits more signifcant. I don't know, if this is a general observation.
Kind regards
Thomas

W.W. Webster wrote:
tgutgu wrote:
Just a small report, on how upgrading a client's LR 2 catalog went ...
So, please Adobe, get keyword completion fixed for keywords with spaces immediately !!! This is what professionals need. A catalog without reliable DAM features, renders the catalog concept to a great extend (sic) useless. Please listen!
I just report my experience I had, with a photgrapher (sic), who needs a (sic) proper asset management.
So the over-riding conclusion from your experience with just one photographer is that Lightroom is 'useless', and this compels you to demand, in bold type, that Adobe must listen?
That Lightroom has issues and areas for ongoing development is obvious, and Adobe won't dispute this. But rants like yours add nothing and are unhelpful. Julie's response is extremely tactful and far more moderate than your post deserves.
Dear Mr. Webster
I think when you post, you should definitely change your tone. Julie simply answered my original post by acknowledging the problem, your accusation that I did not use appropriate "netiquette" is ridiculous. Posts like yours are a real problem of this forum.
I simply gave a user story example to show that not for everybody the shiny advertised new features provide real benefits and that paying attention to a thorough implementation of features can be equally important. I think Julie has recognized this. And the issue is nothing for ongoing developments. Lightroom supports keywords with spaces, so it has to be done consequently. Keywording is essential for DAM. If keywording gets too tedious or leads to wrong keyword assignments, then DAM is really pointless.
The intention of my post was to point Adobe to an apparently small problem, which has quite a big impact to people, who depend on good DAM features. The issue is nothing new, existed since the first release of Lightroom, but nothing was done about it, unfortunately. Now that Lightroom addressed keywords with spaces even with a new preference setting, it was fair to assume, that they had done something about it with care. This isn't so obviously. The issue was discussed in previous threads, but did not get any visible notice from Adobe. I am glad that this has changed now with Julie's post.
In no way did I say that Lightroom is useless or even that I regard it to be so. I merely said that the catalog concept is to a great extend (not completely) useless, if its implementation is sloppy. DAM starts with data entry and only after doing this, you can use it to your benefit. Therefore it has to be efficient, which currently is not. Lightroom is criticized by a large number of users that it is forcing them into a catalog system instead of just providing access to the file system. Long existing bugs like this, likely proves them right in their view.
The competition (I mean complete workflow solutions) is not really better than Lightroom with respect to DAM features, however, my take is, that the developers should be equally ambitious with the quality of the catalog system as they are with IQ, especially if the achievements in IQ are apparently less relevant to owners of high end camera systems. (I could be wrong with the last statement, but it would be interesting to hear if others have similar observations).
Kind regards
Thomas
Thomas

How can I improve the SEO (Search Engine Optimization) of my website?

Hello,
I have pushed my website live and am currently looking at my basic website reviews from "Woorank". There are a lot of areas that I can inprove for SEO and they seem simple enough to take care of. However many suggestions they give require direct input into HTML...and, well, I chose Muse so I didn't have to deal with that jazz. So, the following is a list of items that I am looking to improve on my website and I am looking for the "how to" in Adobe Muse. I have located and read through Adobe's "strategies for SEO" at http://www.adobekb.com/strategies_for_seo.html#addingtitles but i still have unanswered questions.
robots.txt
I know Muse creates a "XML sitemap", which I do not quite understand...because I am only familiar with the sitemap links that are typically at the footer of a website and serve as a directory - but it would be nice to prevent crawlers from accessing specific directories and pages and specify where the sitemap file is located. What exactly Muse doing with my website's "sitemap"? Is this sitemap accessible to people viewing my website or just crawlers?
Headings
My website currently does not use html headings (<H1> to <H6>) I would like to use keywords in the headings. In the "page properties"dialog box, under metadata, it has a "HTML for <head>" box. How do I input words in this? use the HTML such as: <H1>Green Roofs</H1><H2>Landscape Architecture</H2>? separate by comma? Just type in words with a space inbetween?
Alternative Text for images
I have found that only some of the images in my website have the option for adding alternative text. I right click on a photo and I get a "Edit Image Properties..." Option to add alt. text. But some images do not have this option. Why? I hover over an image and keep the arrow pointer (mouse) still and it will display a "tool tip" such as "Hero Frame", "image Frame", "thumbnail", "target", or "trigger". It seems that only on "image frame", "hero image", and "trigger" will right click and display the option for "Edit Image Properties...". Whats going on here?
Blog
I have an active blog that I have as a menu item and when you go to that page on my site, I just have a link that goes to the externally hosted blog. Is there a way to eliminate a click by actually having the user directed to the external blog site when clicking the "Blog" menu tab? I understand that a particular level in Business Catalyst has a Blog engine option.
A lot of these are pretty nit-picky, but I would appreciate any insight given. Thanks,

More info on sitemap.xml:
http://www.adobekb.com/strategies_for_seo.html#understandingsitemap
Note that you can also exclude a page from your sitemap.xml to prevent crawlers from crawling it. Usually you don't want to do this, but if you have a good reason to the setting for that is in the page properties dialog.
You can assign heading tags using paragraph styles. More info here:
http://www.adobekb.com/strategies_for_seo.html#usingparagraph
I'm able to set alt text on thumbnail images. Are you sure you have the thumbnail image selected?
You can create a placeholder page in your plan view, then mark the page menu options as 'include page without hyperlink'. Then your menu will contain an entry for this page, but no hyperlink. If you select the menu item, you can assign a hyperlink with the hyperlink control in the control strip.

Ideas to Improve Tagging of photos in PSE Organizer

I've been using PSE since V2 and recently upgraded from PSE 11 to PSE 13. While PSE is solid and has some nice new features, it's apparent after some use that my hopes that manual face tagging would be greatly improved were not realized. I take some responsibility for this as I've grumbled about the unnecessary steps and lack of features in this area and have been silent. So, I have some suggestions which would be really, really nice to see in an update to the Photoshop Elements Organizer.
The thrust of this posting is to improve manual tagging of pictures: Steps one does to augment tagging after "Add People" and "Add Places" has been used.
Please let me know what you think of this list and I'll submit a revised version as a development suggestion. Which ideas are good? workable? Which ones are half baked? Have I missed features that already exist so these suggestions are unnecessary?
Recently Used tags:
When tagging a set of pictures it is highly likely to reuse tags across many pictures.
If the tags are from many areas in the tag group structure it requires opening and closing parts of the group tree to access the tags. This is arduous if one has a large number of tags.
Recommend providing a "Recently Used Tags" in the list of tag sections below Keywords, People, Places, and Events.
Recently used tags should provide a lot of tags in Most Recently Used order - 100 at a minimum. Tagging weddings and other group events involve using a lot of tags.
Recently used tags should include all types of tags - people, places, events, etc.
This approach would be beneficial when PSE fails to find faces as well as when non-face tags need to be applied to pictures.
Favorite tags:
Add a "Favorites" tag structure along with People, Places, Events, and Recently Used from above.
Allow tags to be assigned to favorites by selecting a tag and right click "Add to Favorites".
Allow tags in Favorites to be reordered by dragging up and down in the list.
Allow tags to be removed from Favorites by selecting the tag with right click "Remove from Favorites".
Adding face tags for faces that were not found (no box on the face) requires way too many steps for a picture selected in the organizer (seven steps). Today one must:
Press "Mark Face" button.
Drag rectangle placed in upper left to a face.
Size rectangle to the face.
Click in name area below rectangle.
Type beginning of name.
Select name from list
Click green check to confirm selected name.
First suggested alternative for face tagging (3 steps):
Right (or left) click and drag to create rectangle on face - Organizer recognizes this operation and marks face and opens name box below.
Type beginning of name in name box.
Select name from list. When name is selected it is confirmed - no green check to confirm selected name. In the unlikely event one incorrectly selects a name it can always be corrected or the face box removed.
Second suggested approach to quick face tagging:
Open one Tags/Info and expand one of the tag structures: People, Places, Events, Recently Used tags, or Favorites and navigate to a tag.
Drag a tag (that is a person) into a unassigned facial recognition box. This completes the face tag.
If no box exists for a face, right click and drag a tag to a face. The default sized square is created on center of release point at end of drag and the tag is assigned to the face. Allow the user to resize the square to margins of face and hit enter to complete tag. Using right click for this process differentiates a new face tag from the standard left click which assigns the tag to the photo or an empty face tag box.
This approach requires one or two steps per tag unless the tag needs to be located in the tag strucure.
Other photo tagging issues:
Do not suggest a person for a face tag if they are already face tagged on the picture as they probably aren't in two places on the same picture.
When clicking on a blank name for an empty face tag PSE provides a list of names that is barely wide enough for 3 names. A larger list of suggested names should be provided - it could extend beyond the entry area for the name and below it. If face recognition does find a good match PSE should include in the list any people tags which are assigned to the photo but have not been tagged to a face. Anyone having used PSE for a long period of time likely has many pictures which are tagged with people but are not face tagged. This approach would reduce the effort in selecting a person.
Sometimes a lot of non-faces are detected in a picture. Removing these boxes requires separate clicks on each box's 'X'. Suggest a context menu on the photo, 'Remove unused face tags' to clear them' in one step.
I'd appreciate all ideas and suggestions. In advance, thanks!

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IPhoto 6 unusably slow (starting with keywords and then the rest o product)

As I've mentioned in a post in another thread, I upgraded to iPhoto 6 a few weeks ago. From the moment of upgrade, anything associated with the keyword function (applying, searching, even scrolling the keyword box) is painfully slow--60 seconds to 3+ minutes at a time (that's the average--I've had waits of 90 seconds to apply 1 keyword to 1 photo and 8 minutes to apply 1 keyword to 27 photos). Since that last post, I've also discovered that the longer I try to use the product, the slower EVERYTHING in the product gets (other than scrolling the library).
I use iPhoto as a database, not an image editor. To give you an idea of what I'm talking about, the types of things I'm trying to do include:
* apply one keyword to 30 photos
* click on one photo after having assigned a keyword to a different subset of photos
* scroll down one page in the keyword box
* select 4 photos
* scroll one page in the main iPhoto view of photos
* search by keyword
I've re-installed, re-built, and re-started. I can also say that the longer I try to use iPhoto 6 in one session, the worse the performance gets. Yesterday morning I had to keyword 150 photos from a party and forced myself to use iPhoto so they could be searched with another set of pictures already in iPhoto. It took me OVER 1 HOUR to assign an average of 6 keywords to each photo with selections averaging 10-15 photos at a time. I am not exaggerating--I timed it (63 minutes). For the record, no other applications were running: iPhoto was flying solo (I thought running alone might help performance, but it didn't. I'm no software programmer but I have a lot of experience with computers and whatever is tying iPhoto's resources into a knot seems to be between iPhoto and iPhoto or iPhoto and the OS.)
Also, the longer I used the product, the fewer "actions" it saw. So, for example, at the beginning I could click 3 keywords on the same keyword pane view and all 3 would apply to the selected photos (with a still dismal response, but at least I was getting 3 assignments for each response). By the end, only 1 assignment would be "seen" at a time even if 3 were clicked (and the other 2 would be translated into some random actions as iPhoto would scroll the keyword pane and assign a random keyword--not necessarily on the same side or the same position on the screen of the keywords I had actually clicked). The result? The functional response time tripled.
The product is not only much worse than iPhoto 5, it's unusably slow. Sadly, I've already upgraded. So I'm wondering if anyone can tell me:
1) Is there any way to know officially if Apple is addressing this specific problem? I know other people are experiencing this and thought there would be a fix from Apple by now, but nothing.
2) Is there any way to bail out of iPhoto 6 and go back to iPhoto 5? I know there's no official path, but (A) is there any unofficial path and (B) what would I lose?
3) Since iPhoto 6 is the only iLife product I use, I feel especially ripped-off. What I'd really like to do is get a refund and pursue a different solution. Any thoughts there?
G4 Mac OS X (10.4.6)
G4 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Old Toad
Since I last wrote I have:
* Rebuilt the directories with Disk Warrior. The problems I had were 30+ overlaps between iPhoto images and iTunes song files.
This got rid of the 8 minute responses, but performance was still unusably appalling.
* I cleaned out the user caches with OnyX.
No change in iPhoto performance.
* I reinstalled iPhoto. (Because of the overlaps I also tried to reinstall iTunes but it doesn't have an obvious path for that. Given the number of hours I've already burned on this Apple problem I didn't have the fight in me for another one).
No change.
* Per another post in this forum I emptied iPhoto trash, then per Old Toad I rebuilt the iPhoto library with the first 3 options.
Noticeable improvement, but the performance is still dreadful.
* Did a re-install and archive of OS X (per a friend's suggestion) and downloaded all the system updates anew.
No improvement.
So after rebuilding my system from the directories up, re-installing iPhoto, and rebuilding the iPhoto library I'm "back to" 30 second to 3+ minute waits for everything when the Photo Info pane is active. For example, it takes 30-90 second waits for tasks such as:
* changing a tab in the Photo Info pane
* trying to scroll the Keywords tab of the Photo Info pane
* assign 1 keyword to 1 photo
It takes 2-3+ minute waits for tasks such as:
* scrolling the main window (one click in the scroll bar--not dragging) when the Photo Info pane is open
* assigning 1 keyword to 36 photos
* closing the Photo Info pane (AFTER however many minutes it took for the final commit i did before trying to exit)
My observations:
* When the ball is spinning on the screen, iPhoto doesn't "remember" what I do as other applications do, although the Keywords pane will occasionally scroll backward or forward--apparently randomly--in response to a single click anywhere in iPhoto. (And I'm not one of those people who bangs on the keyboard constantly when the computer is busy: I'm talking about a click that might get in before the ball starts spinning on the screen.)
* The first "click" after opening the Photo Info Pane (either the Keywords tab or the first keyword box) is always "free"--no problem with excessively long waits. The second click after after a "free" click always has the burdensome wait times. Occasionally, though, in the first 3-5 clicks in the Photo Info pane the first click after what I'm assuming is a commit does not have the painful wait times. After those first 3-5 clicks, though, every click gets this excessive wait.
* It seems odd to me how consistent the minimum wait is: right around 30 seconds. The click is either "free"--i.e. no perceptible wait time (or a reasonably minimal wait, given the task at hand)--or it's 30+ seconds.
These response times really do make the product unusable for me. Does anyone:
1) Have any other suggestions?
2) Know how I can find out whether this problem is being pursued by Apple?
3) Know of any path out of the product so I can put myself out of my misery?………
G4 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

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