Kile: language-specific quotation marks

Hi,
There's a choice of double quote substitutes for different languages under Configure->LaTeX->General. No Russian ones << and >>, though. Should be no problem because some other editors handle them out of the box, and quite smartly, just with the right layout. I checked kilerc file, no quote info. Where am I supposed to look?

Well, that's bad.
What's about that sidebar stuff leocp1 mentioned?
If this also doesn't work, probably the direct use of the « » glyphs characters (instead of the LICR-objects "< ">) would be a better deal. You might need \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} then. -- Try to produce these without kile; I don't know about your keyboard layout, but maybe there are matching AltGr-combinations. Or use helpers like xbindkeys. Alternatively let finally e.g. sed parse your source file for character (string) replacements.
Otherwise I don't know, consider changing your latex editor though.
Edit just for clarification: One gets different glyphs of the same character, when it's displayed in different fonts!
And, I can't help it -- according to this table French and Russian quotes look the same in shape, except the French have some extra padding. Maybe the Russian are shorter? Do both have the same or different Unicode codepoints? -- Or try a different font.
Last edited by nexus7 (2012-01-17 20:00:47)

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