KKF6N - Cost estimate on cost collector

When I cost a product cost collector with MF30 or KKF6N, the BOM of the finished product is not exploded as if all the components were raw material or the BOM was monolevel - despite the BOM is multilevel. I don't understand why...
Thanks for your help

In the same time i found OSS note 717592
The system response in the preliminary costing of a product cost collector
is different from the previous behavior in releases as of Release 40B . Up
to and including Release 40B, assemblies were broken down and costed
further. The cost estimate was created in multiple levels. In the following
releases, the system does no longer break down the incoming components and
carries out a material valuation.
This system response is correct. However, you can check whether you can set
up again the prior behavior with a modification. In this case, contact the
Remote Consulting.
Christophe Le Bail

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COPA cost estimate from costing for COGS

Hi,
we are using sales order costing (variant config), discrete(Prdn Order) and repitative (Cost collectors) in production costing.
Need to update COGS under COPA based on cost component structure using mat cost estimate. All mat uses mat type as ZINE for all cases.
There is separate costing variant for sales order and others. created 2 costing key in COPA and costing key 001 that is sales order costing to mat type ZINE. and assigned valuation class in next step so that discrete and repitative can get captured.
But it resulted in error during billing as system could not find sales order costing for discrete material. So i assgned costing 2 with discrete and repitatve costing variant to mat type ZINE aftter sales order costing variant.
Error got resolved but cost component split happens for sales order costing only and not for others. Please advice and also note that it is not possible to add material type or change valuation class due to complexity.
Regards,
Atu

Hi Paul
What is your purpose?
1. If you just want to fetch the material cost estimate (std cost) in COPA, then what you are doing is not correct...For this,
a. KE4U - Valuation Strategy 001 - (DETAILS Tab) assign 001 to Qty Field ABSMG and tick "Mat Cstng" indicator
b. KE4U - (Assignment Tab) Assign 001 to PV=01 and Record Type = F
c. Create a Costing key in KE40
d. Assign Costing key to mat types in KE4J or KEPC
e. Assign Cost Comp Split to Value Field in KE4R
2. Costing sheet in COPA is used for doing some calculations during billing and updating the same to COPA... For eg: you want to add 2% of your Std cost as Freight to COPA (Statistical value)... This can be done using Costing sheet...
In order to use Costing sheet in COPA,
a. Create a Costing sheet - (You already did this)
b. KE4U - Val Strategy 001 - (DETAILS Tab) Against Valuation Strategy 001 - Assign this costing sheet against "Application = KE" and Qty Field = ABSMG.. Do not check "Mat Cstng" against this indicator..
So, if you want to use Costing sheet in COPA, your KE4U may have 2 entries under the "DETAILS" tab..
(1) As per 1.a and 1.b above
(2) As per 2.b above
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COPA cost estimate using costing sheet

Dear Experts,
I have done the relevant copa configuration related to Material cost estimate using costing sheet. I have maintained all the condition type required in the costing sheet.
Can anyone plese help me out with the Transction code which I should run to do the material cost estomate using costinbg sheet. And also how I can link the estimated material cost in my Profitability analysis report.
Thank you
Regards
Paul
Edited by: Paul01 on Dec 20, 2010 1:31 AM

Hi Paul
What is your purpose?
1. If you just want to fetch the material cost estimate (std cost) in COPA, then what you are doing is not correct...For this,
a. KE4U - Valuation Strategy 001 - (DETAILS Tab) assign 001 to Qty Field ABSMG and tick "Mat Cstng" indicator
b. KE4U - (Assignment Tab) Assign 001 to PV=01 and Record Type = F
c. Create a Costing key in KE40
d. Assign Costing key to mat types in KE4J or KEPC
e. Assign Cost Comp Split to Value Field in KE4R
2. Costing sheet in COPA is used for doing some calculations during billing and updating the same to COPA... For eg: you want to add 2% of your Std cost as Freight to COPA (Statistical value)... This can be done using Costing sheet...
In order to use Costing sheet in COPA,
a. Create a Costing sheet - (You already did this)
b. KE4U - Val Strategy 001 - (DETAILS Tab) Against Valuation Strategy 001 - Assign this costing sheet against "Application = KE" and Qty Field = ABSMG.. Do not check "Mat Cstng" against this indicator..
So, if you want to use Costing sheet in COPA, your KE4U may have 2 entries under the "DETAILS" tab..
(1) As per 1.a and 1.b above
(2) As per 2.b above
Regards
Ajay M

In standard cost estimate the cost of alternative items flowing in full

Hi,
when i calculate the standard cost estimate in repetitiv manufacturing the
complete cost of all alternative items in alternative group is flowing to it.
how to restrict it
thanks in advance
regards
madan

Solution
1. make one of the materail in BOM, as not releavent to costing....depeding on which alternative is better to get the correct std cost
2. Use stargergy 1 usage probnability may be 50% and 50% for alternatives...depending on usage of that material.

Primary cost estimate/ stad. cost estimate

Hi gurus,
Please advise in REM, what is the difference between std cost estimate and preliminary cost estimate. when we should go for preliminary cost estimate and in which scenario should we go for std? please advise.

Hi
To make things simple, please note the below difference.
Standard cost estimate: -
If you select this in REM profile, then if u make any changes in routing or BOM which could have impact in material cost, then the costing run and updating the assembly with new cost is mandatory beofre MFBF could be done.
Preliminary cost estimate: -
Here once Preliminary cost estimate is done then the back flush could be done with preliminary cost and costing run is not mandatory.
The scenario depends on situation where company does chnages in routing or BOM frequently but it has no or negligible impact in final costing of material.

How to get report for cost estimates material cost only

Hi Gurus,
We have requirement in sales order costing that we need to develope report which shows only Material cost for all BOM levels.
Normally at lower levels cost of Material and activity cost will be treated as Material cost for next level. Here I want to consider only material cost not activity cost at lower levels
Pls suggest the logic and tables for exploding BOM and fetching material cost only.
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Sneha

Sneha
If you tick the "Roll up" indicatorfor each cost component in Cost Comp Str OKTZ, then overheads do not get added to the material cost... This is my understanding about it.. Is it behaving some thing different in your case??
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Backflush with Prel cost estimate still considering standard cost estimate

Hi,
Trying to do back flush with Prel cost estimate . Flagged in REM profile " Post Activities " / Using Data from Preliminary Costing".
However, FG rate is considred as per standard cost estimate and not as per preliminary cost estimate.
Kindly advise whether any other specific setting is needed.
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HI
check these links:
standard / preliminary cost estimate
Significance of Preliminary cost estimate,
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As far as I know there is no report that gets you data for multiple materials at a time. You have to develop a Z report for this.
Logic is you have to go to KEKO and pick up the cost estimate and date for the particular material
and then go to KEPH table and pick up all the cost components for that material.
Then only you will have a report sapnning across multiple materials.
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Valuation using material cost estimate

Ciao a tutti,
We have create a material cost
estimate without standard structure(unit costing) not FOR ALL MATERIALS, but only for ONE
VARIANT of generic material (retail solution) (because the other variant have the same price, and because we have to reproduced 5000 BOM in unit cost for just
one variant with transaction KKPA LSMW)
So, now we have to valuated the material cost estimate when the customer create the billing document and put the split of the cost estimate in co-pa
Our prolem is : we have calculate standard cost estimate for 5000
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valuated the cost estimate (the system works well), but how I can change the variant in the valuation and put the variant that have the cost
estimate calculate?
Wiht the transaction "Assign Costing Keys to Any Characteristics" I think
is not possible.
I must to use enhance COPA0002?
Thank you very much
Paolo Artini
tel: +393299223804

Hi All,
I am also facing the problem for Sales Order Cost Estimate. and the Costing Status is VO(Marked without errors).
I have done the following
created the Costing Key (sales order cost estimate)
assigned costing key to the material type.
assigned to the respective value fields
sales order cost estimate,
Run the RA
Settlement done.
But in COPA, cost estimates are not being split up based on the cost component (like Material, Labour and Over head) and it is getting posted to COGS only.
Do we need to change the costing status to FR, if yes, but how to do ?
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Valuation with material cost estimate: error with product "117122"

Hi people,
We have the error:
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Valuation with material cost estimate: error with product "117122"
Diagnosis
In Profitability Analysis (CO-PA), the system tried to valuate a line item using the current standard cost estimate.
In order to determine the current plan period, the system needs to read the valuation segment of the material master.
The system has found that the current plan period is not filled forproduct "117122" in plant "UBE1".
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. Determine material cost estimate
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. Costing Variant
. Control Data for Standard Cost Estimate
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. Addiitonal data CO-PC
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We think the reason about our error is because the field above is activated and some configuration more is necessary for this case. For examplo: Trans.: OKYW and this one was not configurated yet.
Do you know what happend?
If we need to configure some transation, or sonly process the cost estimate?
Thanks,
Rosana.

Hello Guido
Thank you very much for your return.
It is happenning in a Client that some people are doing the configuration.
Before we didin't have in KE40, the fiel "Transfer cost estimate in controlling area currency" activated.
And now, the people activate that in this new Client and I don't know the impact about that.
I think we have to make the configuration in OKYW.
The other transation you told me, we don't have any information.
Could you tell me some other idea what happend?
Message error is just "Message no. KE350"
Abou claculate the cost:
It was calculated by trans.: CK11N for future planning and the real wasn't not possible to release because this material already have moviments.
Could you tell us is there is some thing more to do?
Thanks,
Rosana.

Valuation with material cost estimate: error with product " 200038 "

Hi,
I am getting an error:
Valuation with material cost estimate: error with product " 200038 " (Message KE350).
Kindly assist on the same?

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HI GURUS
Product A Details
Material type = ZXXX ( customized ) , Plant = 1500
Bom Componet = G & H     ( where product G is non - valuated , no costing view maintained with material type = Z111, while H is valuated product )
Production type =   PP-PI
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Material type = ZYYY ( customized ) , Plant = 2000
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Cost estimate/costing run

Hi
What is the difference between cost estimate and costing run?
Thanks,
Nivi

Hello Ram,
There are 3 steps in Costing Procedure. They are
1. Creation of cost estimate
2. Marking of cost estimate
3. Release of cost estimate
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Thank you,
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