KT4 Ultra-FISR (MS-6590) release date?

I have been checking with my supplier for about 3 months on the release of this board.
But to no avail still isn’t stock. Does anyone know when it might be released in Canada?
scott

as big as you can buy
its over the 137 gb barrier so sky is the limit

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MSI KT4 Ultra-FISR MS-6590 Won\'t Boot-Up

Ok I just install my new system today. I took my time and did everything right. So when I started my system up, it came on for about 5 seconds then shut off. I spent endless hours trying figure out the problem but to no avail. Then I came here and read other people's problem to help me out. I already read the trouble shooting guide but none of that helped. Here are my system specs.
duron 1.3
256MB ddr 2100
inddo gf4 440se
16x dvd
40/16/48 cd burner
2 20 gig harddrives
350 psu
my dc is 3.3v
my max combine is 175
I know it's not a power issue beacuse I unplugged everything but the cpu and on harddrive, and I still get the same problem. Even if I just have the cpu, it will not boot up. Please help!!!! ;(

at least 200 with a gf4,you might get away with a tiny bit as only a duron,but 185 is the least we say for a normal system
if 14a 3.3 like last guy no hope at all

KT4 Ultra-FISR (MS-6590) Hard Drive

What is the largest size hard drive i can put on my board.
Thanks

as big as you can buy
its over the 137 gb barrier so sky is the limit

KT4-ULTRA FISR NO LAN DETECT

I have this problem:
in the bios at
Integrated Perimetrals > OnBoard PCI Controller
1. Serial Ata Controller
2. 1394 Controller
3. Audio Controller
the lan controller???
I dont see...?? ?(
I have canghed the bios from version 1.2 to version 1.3 and from 1.3. to 1.2 but the Lan controller dont see...!
why the problem?? the chip Broadcom is on board... but dont work!!
my configuration are:
- MSI KT4-Ultra FISR whit bluetooth module bios 1.3
- AMD Athlon XP 2400+
- 512 MB DDR333 Geil ULTRa Cs 2
- SK Video ASUS V8200 Dlx Ti500
- 1 hdd 40 GB Ata 133 P.M.
- 1 hdd 80 GB Ata 133 P.S.
- 1 hdd 60 GB Ata 133 Ata Raid
- 1 DVD rom S.M.
- 1 Yamaha F1 S.S.
Bye...!
Excuseme for my english I'm Italian and speak so so the language...

Okay, I assume the new 1.4 bios they are working on will address this problem? Or perhaps not? This problem as I see has been discovered last year, yet how many bios updates were released since? None of them remidying this situation.
The KT4 Ultra FISR is a really nice mainboard, but the lack of support and/or broken LAN controller really makes it look bad.
Flashing the bios and clearing the cmos simply wont work. This shouldnt be necessary when the LAN just dissapears on its own without any cause. If it isnt a bios bug, then its clearly a board flaw.
Is that why this problem has been covered up quite well? If there hasent been a bios fix, then i would guess that it is a flaw that is still not being publicly made by MSI themselves.
If theres a known fault with a product, i expect to be known about it. This problem has shown up enough to be a known flaw.
No, checking the winblows "device manager/tackler" wont show it, clearing the cmos wont show it, flashing the bios 10000 times wont make it show either. The device doesnt even exist on the mainboards pci table, its gone, not there, poof, kapoot, vanished.
PCI devices found:
Bus 0, device 0, function 0:
Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 0).
Master Capable. Latency=8.
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0000000 [0xefffffff].
Bus 0, device 1, function 0:
PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge (rev 0).
Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=12.
Bus 0, device 7, function 0:
Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 16).
IRQ 10.
Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=32.Max Lat=64.
I/O at 0xec00 [0xecff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdfffff00 [0xdfffffff].
Bus 0, device 12, function 0:
Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 16).
IRQ 11.
Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=2.Max Lat=24.
I/O at 0xe800 [0xe8ff].
Bus 0, device 16, function 0:
USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 128).
IRQ 11.
Master Capable. Latency=32.
I/O at 0xdc00 [0xdc1f].
Bus 0, device 16, function 1:
USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (#2) (rev 128).
IRQ 5.
Master Capable. Latency=32.
I/O at 0xe000 [0xe01f].
Bus 0, device 16, function 2:
USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (#3) (rev 128).
IRQ 12.
Master Capable. Latency=32.
I/O at 0xe400 [0xe41f].
Bus 0, device 16, function 3:
USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 130).
IRQ 10.
Master Capable. Latency=32.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdffffe00 [0xdffffeff].
Bus 0, device 17, function 0:
ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA Bridge (rev 0).
Bus 0, device 17, function 1:
IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 6).
IRQ 14.
Master Capable. Latency=32.
I/O at 0xfc00 [0xfc0f].
Bus 1, device 0, function 0:
VGA compatible controller: PCI device 1002:514d (ATI Technologies Inc) (rev 0).
IRQ 11.
Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=8.
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xc0000000 [0xcfffffff].
I/O at 0xc800 [0xc8ff].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xdfef0000 [0xdfefffff].
Hello?? Anybody home? Think Mcfly think!
edit:
Yes the IEEE1394 and RAID controller isnt there, thats because it is disabled in the bios, and can be reenabled just as easily, unlike the Broadcom LAN controller, that isnt even there to enable anyways.

KT4 Ultra FISR very slow HD & FWire with XPSP1

Any suggestions please.
I used to get 35-45MBytes/s sustained copying 1G video files between drives using win2k sp4.
Then I had to go to XP to support the new 200G boot drive.
Now I get 15MBytes/sec copying files and the firewire runs at 7MBytes/s.
SiSandra says 40200 for the 200G, 26000 for raid 0 array (2x80G on promise pci ultra66).
HD Tach shows the 200G drives as 55MB/s down to 45MB/s & 25MB/s for the firewire.
It has to be a problem with winXP.
Indexing has been turned off.
Motherboard KT4 ULTRA FISR 6590
-Bios 1.4
-CPU AMD XP2800 (1.8GHz)
-Kingston PC2700 2x 512MB
- GeForce FX5600 (8xAGP)
-Hard Drives: all seagate - IDE 0 200G, 200G, IDE 2 nil, IDE 3 (sata) 120G, 80G
IDE 1 DVD Writer & CD ROM,
Promise PCI ULTRA66 Raid 2x 80G
External Firewire 200G & 80G seagates
WIN XP SP1

So yesterday the system stopped dead - wouldn't boot into XP - and all my roms were at home.
So I did a system repair - no gui.
Ran full setup from the rom, got all the way to installing drivers and hang.
Repeat 5 times removing hardware at each step and disabling items in the bios.
Eventually got XP to install with generic PCI video, 1HD, 1 CDROM. No MB
Turned out to be that problematic Broadcom 5702. Had to disable in bios.
And the rom drive crunched my XP disk badly.
Reinstall everything. What a pain.
Still having trouble with that broadcom adapter chipset...
Anyway with the network disabled in bios the firewire now does 15MBytes/sec sustained and Sisandra says my boot partition rates 37000, better than the 12000 previous..

Serial ATA on MSI KT4 Ultra FISR??

Hello
Just a general query here about Serial ATA on the 6590 board (KT4 Ultra FISR).
I am hoping to build a system with this board and was hoping to start with only one HD, preferably an 80Gb Serial ATA drive. Does the promise raid controller on this board allow you to boot on a single serial ATA drive?
P.S. I was also hoping to add a Radeon 9700 card (not pro) but have read about many problems within this forum. Does anyone know if the problems have been cleared?
Thanks
?(

Well, my idea was to buy a Serial ATA drive from the outset and use it as the only HD in the system. Therefore, it would have to start on the serial ATA raid port.
The only other boot option I can see which may be relevant is "Legacy SCSI". Doesn't sound right though. There are also a lot of BBS (BIOS boot specification) choices from 0 to 9 but I dont know what they are.
There are about 25 boot options including from USB CDROM drives but nothing specific to RAID!

MSI KT4 Ultra-FISR

Recent upgrade problem
Old: MSI kt266 pro-2, allied 300w atx psu, ati radeon ve 32m
New: MSI kt4 ultra-fisr, allied 400w atx psu, MSI geforce4 mx440-vtp, western digital 80g hdd
Unchanged: 256m pc2700 ddr, top-g 24-10-40x cdrw, maxtor 45g hdd, sblive platinum
Problem: After upgrading I have difficulty installing software by cd. Errors are spomething like (bad cab file)
occasional but random reboots
moving files on hdd causes reboots
can someone help? I've contacted MSI about it and really hope I won't have to send the board in as defective if it really isn't.. thanks

Hi,
I have the same issues with my KT4 Ultra (pure version).
Running GF4 Ti4400, Athlon XP2400+ etc, 450W power etc. There are quite many posts of similar issues all over the Via Arena forums and some here as well. KT4 Ultra's and KT4V's seem to be the boards affected.
Installing the Via USB Filter Patch helped with narrowing down the number of crashes and some of the errors.
(note: disable automatic restart from 'Startup and Recovery settings' to see the driver that crashes)
Link to Via Arena FTP site
I had a K7T266pro2-RU board before this which worked 100% stable. I've tested all my components which are fine. Tested different power supplies, memory. Still, continuous random errors after many times of reinstalling Win2K by the book and with default bios settings.
Sometimes the setup works fine for a week and then starts to mess around again.
Looks like setting the cpu fsb down to 128 MHz from 133 MHz solves the issues, so try that and report back.
Also check the filter patch.
I'm personally waiting for the next bios release to fix these issues - if not, I'm showing this board RMA and go to nForce2 chipset.
I also tested the 1.25 beta bios, which gave me lots of crashes during Win2K boot -> flashed back to v1.10 and booting works again.
- Tom

BIOS flash for KT4-Ultra FISR

Hi
I have a question about BIOS flashing for the KT4-Ultra FISR board. I currently have version 1.1 of the BIOS and was told that I need at least 1.2 to recognize my AthlonXP 2500+ correctly. (It currently shows as a 1.1Ghz athlon with the FSB set to 100MHz * 11 multiplier)
Is it worth moving up to 1.3 or 1.4 instead of just 1.2?
Thanks
KT4-Ultra FISR (MS6590 v1.1)
AthlonXP 2500+ (barton)
Zalman Copper flower heatsink
512 MB DDR333 RAM
Powercolor Radeon 9700 Pro
Antec Soho 1080 case (430W truepower supply)

I would have to guess BIOS may make a difference. Although XP2200+ and XP2500+ Barton both run at 1.83GHz, the BIOS may be confused as to the processor type if the Barton was released after the initial BIOS version. Only 2700+ and 2800+ were 333 FSB at the time of BIOS release maybe... then again, I am a useless tech... just a guess is all I have to offer.

KT4 Ultra-SR (MS-6590) dont work with AMD Barton 2500+

;( Please help me any1.
I have MBO KT4 Ultra-SR (MS-6590) with CPU AMD Barton 2500+ and i have a big problem. System corectly boot only if a select CPU FSB Clock = 100 MHz (CPU Ration/CPU Vcore/DDR Voltage=all AUTO). When a select CPU FSB Clock 133 or 166 MHz, system begin run corectly and after few second turned OFF. I selecting SDRAM Frequency on=AUTO/266/333/400 MHz but not working. My old CPU is AMD XP Palomino 2100 MHz and work fine with KT4 Ultra MBO. I upgrade BIOS with 1.4 version. I change memory module with PQI (PC 2700/256 MB) and JETRAM (PC 2700/256 MB) but is same ":censored: ". System dont work. Bad CPU Barton 2500+? I dont no. Please help me any1.
My System:
MBO KT4 Ultra-SR (MS-6590)
CPU AMD Barton 2500+ (FSB 333)
Memory DDR Samsung 2x256 MB (PC 3200) K4H56083D-TCC4
Cooler SPIRE WhisperRock IV+Artic Silver 3
HDD Seagate Baracuda 120 GB SATA
PSU Enermax 300W EG301P-VE(FMA)
VGA Saphire ATI Radeon 9100 (64 MB+TV/DVI-out)
DVD-ROM Pioneer 120S (16x speed)
CD-RW MSI CR52-A2 (52/24/52, Atapi)
FDD Teac 1.44 MB
Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1

Most of the time, this sort of problems arise because of power suppliy issues.. U have a enamax 300W PSU which is a VERY GOOD PSU but might just be on the line...
If u can, try swapping the PSu for a good 400 or a 420W PSU.. this might solve your enigma.. I really dont think this is your processor...
Read this two articles on PSu wrtten by one moderater which will aid in solve in fixing your problem (PSU1 , PSU2 , Troubleshooting Guide )
Best of luck
RAsika

KT4 Ultra FISR and Radeon 9700pro

OK, I upgraded my MB from the k7t266pro to an Kt4 Ultra. I also upgraded to an AMD xp 2500+ and new DDR 333 ram. My video card is the ati 9700pro. This card functioned just fine with my old board as I never crashed.
Since I have upgraded I have not been able to play any 3d games!! all the games start and are playable for 2-5 mins then it just completely freezes my system. i cannot even do an end task and have to hit the reset button to restart the PC.
I am running Winxp home edition and am fully patched. I have also upgraded the bios and installed every new driver from the live update utility. i have the latest drivers available from ATI as well.
what gives here? I have searched Google and various other sites and i have run across many many threads with people having identical problems with this board and video card. my thought is that it is not the video card, as it ran flawlessly on my old MSI board. i do PC support and system admin for a living and 99% of the time I can resolve PC problems on my own, however, I am at a loss with this one. I have been a loyal MSI customer as this is the 4th MB i have bought from you guys over the years, but i can't help feeling disappointed right now. any ideas? This stinks as I was so looking forward to the upgrade in performance and now i got jack.
Tabascodog
System info:
MSI KT4 Ultra FISR
ATI 9700pro
512 DDR 2700 Ram
300w PS (AMD approved)
Maxtor 30bg ata 133

I took the advice of some of you and got a Antec 430w TruePower PS to replace my old one. Still no good. I was a little skeptical about the new PS thing since I run a pretty minimal configuration.
MSI KT4 Ultra - fisr
AMD XP2500+
Radeon 9700pro
512mb 333DDR Ram
30BG Maxtor HD 133ata
Creative PC-DVD Drive
1 Generic Floppy
As you can see, pretty sparse. I soley use this box as a gaming type PC, so I try and keep the load light. At this point I think I would like the board replaced. Like I said, the 9700pro worked like a champ on my k7t266 pro, I doubt it is the new AMD CPU... so that leaves just the memory or the board at this point. I mean, driver wise I am using the same drivers as those that do not have problems. I am going to buy some high-end memory to eliminate that issue, but I highly doubt that will make the difference. I hope I'm wrong though.
Oh, BTW the option to change the AGP slot back to 4x is locked out for some reason. That kinda pisses me off too. I mean, at least give me the option to bring it back down to 4x.
Tabascodog

KT4 Ultra FISR "accessories"

I purchased a bare bones KT4 Ultra FISR board from Newegg.com ?( and wanted to know how I can purchase the special backplate and get info on the 1394 bracket.
Anyone know? I wrote to MSI but they did not answer my email.
Thank you!
Eric

These brackets were hard to get..... I guess somebody had mentioned it. Please use the forum search function and hunt for the answer. Good luck.
My another suggestion is to get a good PC casing with IEEE1394 ports and USB ports in front. You can make full use of these ports

KT4 Ultra FISR and Volcano 9 Cool Mod

I am building a system using the KT4 Ultra FISR and a 2800+. I am also using the Thermaltake Volcano 9 Coolmod fan which has LEDs on the fan. My question is this, the board has two sets of Power LED headers, a two pin and a three pin. The Coolmod is supposed to plug in to the Power LED header. Is it possible to use the three pin header for the fan and the two pin header for the case? I don't want to lose the front LED. I know Thermaltake says don't wire both front panel and Coolmod to the same header, but it doesn't say anything about two different headers. If someone can help, it would be greatly appreciated. I hope I made myself clear. Thanks in advance.

Do you mean to use the two pin JFP1 Power LED for the case and the 3 pin JFP2 for the Volcano mod? I dont think it should be a problem, my LED's are mixed and matched between the two headers. You could test it with a multimeter to see what the output of one header is while the other is connected to its LED.

KT4 Ultra FISR AGP Speed Problem

Hi all,
I've got a bit of a problem and was wondering if someone can help?
I have bought the KT4 Ultra FISR and am having a problem when trying to use it with my 8x AGP Nvidia ge Force 4 ti 4200 but the bois wont let me change the AGP speed to 8x, it insists that the highest it can go is 4x. ;(
I have run the newest 3DMark03 and it's showing that my AGP is only 2.0 and not the 3.0 that is meant to be with the board?
I was wondering if this is the problem?
I have double checked with the Graphics Card Manufacturer and they have confirmed that my card is an 8x card and I know that it was running at 8x on my last board.
I have done all of the Auto updates on the MSI motherbaord update utility but there's still no joy.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
- Ricky

Hi there
Well I have the Inno36 Ti 4200 8x AGP card:
http://www.ivmm.com/inno3d/geforce4/products_gf4_ti_agp8x_reviews.html
I know it's not the best card on the market but it should still be able to operate at it's advertised speed :P
A couple of the guys here at EA bought the card and theres are working fine on thier boards :(
I am not totally sure of the version number of my bios but does 1.3 ring a bell?
I wont be able to check the version till monday...
Like I said before.. I did notice that 3dmark03 noted that I was using agp 2.0, is that right?
- Ricky
P.s. Thankyou for taking the time to help me out Its much appreciated.

KT4 ULtra FISR - HD install probs

okay - I have just built my new system -
Athlon XP 2400+
MSI KT4 Ultra FISR
512MB Samsung DDR400 (MSI Approved)
ATI Radeon 7500
Hercules Digifire 7.1
Seadate Barracuda 80GB
Pioneer DVD-RW 104
Liteon CD-RW 20x
My problem is - that the HD is new, formatted - when I make the Pioneer the 1st boot device, winXP starts to install - however after it puts the initial set of files onto the HD - it has to restart - and when it does I get this msg:
"Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware configuration problem. Could not read from the selected boot disk. Check boot path and disk hardware.
Please check the windows documentation about hardware......."
I initially tried it with a 120GB Maxtor drive and got the same msg. Nothing is wrong with either drive - because they are both brand new, and properly formatted.
I am not using the RAID option I just want to have two HD's connected to IDE1 as master/slave.
When I go into the BIOS - in the boot options my CD drives and HD shows in the correct order. So if it can see my HD in the BIOS - why can't I boot up and complete the installation?
Do I have to disable something in the BIOS - there is a RIAD controller check just after the BIOS splash screen and then it goes onto say that the no drivers were found - so then it carries on with all the other checks and then stops with the above error message.
Somebody please tell me how I can get it to locate my HD and complete the installation of the OS?
Thank you

sorry i guess i wasn't that clear - my optical drives are on IDE2 - IDE1 only has my Seagate HD - only when this is up and running will i add the maxtor as a slave to IDE1
so still looking for that solution

MSI KT4 Ultra-SR (MS-6590) And IDE3

Rig is As Follows:
MSI KT4 Ultra-SR (MS-6590)
AMD Athlon 1000Mhz :(
512MB DDR333 (PC2700) x1 stick
MSI GeoForce 4 Ti4200 8)
IDE1: Western Digital 40Gb 5400rpm (win xp pr) as master & Maxtor 80Gb 7200rpm as slave
IDE2: Liteon 52x24x52 CD-RW ) as master & Samsung 12x DVD as slave.
Soundblaster 5.1 Live PCI
350w Power Supply
MSI D-Bracket 2 & S-Breackets Fitted Also.
I have Three Questions.
>My CPU has a FSB of 200, but the bios (version that came with board) shows it as 100 FSB. See here for athlon bus speeds
Is it ok to increase the bus speed without damaging the processor.
>The two brackets that i have fitted (s and d brackets) do not work. Why?
>What are the optimal and settings for my ram (PC2700 512MB DDR) and GFX Card (MSI GF4 TI4200).
>Oh yeah, my CPU is now operating at a higher temp than before (using old K7VZA ECS Mobo) @ 50-55. Is this normal??
Sorry for the n00b questions, it's just that this is the first time iv ever taken my PC to pieces and re-configured it myself :P
Thanks in advance. -RjA

I can help a little 1000MHZ AMD chip=200FSB XP CPUs=266FSB this is CPU speed . AMD 1000MHZ CPU needs to run @100FSB where a XP CPU can run @133FSB This is MEMORY speed . Trying to crank that poor old chip up to anything other than 100 will do you NO good. You need to buy a bigger cpu of the XP kind. A lot of the older XPs can be had for a low price. 50c isn't not super hot. My KT4 runs in the 40s. You might want to think about a bigger cpu cooler to bring the temps down a bit. Most of your settings should be left at system default, since you only have a 1000MHZ CPU. When you go up to an XP then you can make a few changes. Regards BIGDADDY51 :D :D

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