LabVIEW 2010 - applications and RTE question

Hi,
I'm currently using LabVIEW 2009 and my company is upgrading to 2010, and I had a few questions about building applications and running them on other computers after we make the switch.
1) Will computers that only have the LabVIEW 2010 Run-Time engine installed be able to run applications built with LabVIEW 2009 (and earlier)?
    1.1) If not, will we have to rebuild all our existing programs to use the 2010 RTE?
2) Vice versa, will exes built in 2010 be able to run on computers that only have the 2009 RTE installed?
    2.1) If not, is there an easy way to downconvert programs written in 2010 so that they run on the 2009 RTE?
    2.2) Will we be able to use any of the new features in 2010 (like network streaming, export graphs to excel) if we downconvert to 2009?
3. If we rebuild some applications that were originally written in 2009 will we need to install the 2010 RTE on the target computers so they can run the new version of our application?
Thanks!
-Nick
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2.1) Yes, Save for previous... and rebuild the application in LV 2009.
2.2) No because the new features are not present there.
Waldemar
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