Learning CSS

I have this site up and running, but it isn't quite right.  I haven't been able to resolve the issue of the base not sitting properly in the center of the browser.  It seems to want to sit in the center.  I've tried all kinds of variants in the css code trying to get the base to adjust automatically, but to no avail.  Obviously, there is a procedure I'm missing, or I'm changing the code in the wrong area.  I'm going to place a picture of the site in Dreamweaver rather than send a link to the site - what I'm working on is an experiment off-line.  Once I figure out the issue, then I can change it out.  I realize my slice isn't quite right, but I'm trying to simplify the issues first than improve the complex elements later.
Nancy helped get the video parts right - which aren't included with this page.
I will include the css code first.
body {
    background-color: #ffffff;
    margin:0px;
    padding:0px;
    margin-top: 0px;
    margin-left: 0px;
.p {
    margin:0px;
    padding:0px;
    font-size: inherit;
    font-family: inherit;
    font-weight: inherit;
    text-align: inherit;
    color: inherit;
    line-height: inherit;
    vertical-align: top;
p {
    padding-top:0px;
    margin-top:0px;
img {
    border:0px;
div {
    margin:0px;
    padding:0px;
    font-family:verdana; font-size:12px;
.AbsWrap {
    width: 100%;
    position: relative;
.rowWrap {
    width: 100%;
.clearfloat {
    clear:both;
    height:0px;
a:link, a:visited{
    COLOR:inherit;
    text-decoration:inherit;
#background {
    background-color: #660000;
    width:1500px;
    padding-top:0px;
    height:1071px;
    position: absolute;
    left:0px;
    top:1px;
    margin-bottom:0px;
#Div {
    width:332px;
    padding-top:0px;
    height:203px;
    position: absolute;
    left:814px;
    top:181px;
    margin-bottom:0px;
#body_bg {
    position: absolute;
    left:0px;
    top:1px;
    width:50px;
    height:49px;
    margin-bottom:0px;
    background-image: url(body_bg.gif);
    overflow:hidden;
#wrapper_bg {
    position: absolute;
    left:410px;
    top:0px;
    width:661px;
    height:691px;
    margin-bottom:0px;
body {
    background-image: url(body_bg.gif);
    background-position: 0px 0px;
    margin: 0px;
    padding: 0px;
Thanks in advance,
Ron

Ron,
Have a look at this basic DEMO on CSS positioning:
Learn CSS positioning in 10 Steps
http://www.barelyfitz.com/screencast/html-training/css/positioning/
FYI: if you use Firefox browser, get the Web Developer Toolbar Add-on.  It's invaluable for trouble-shooting code and layout problems.
Web Developer Toolbar for Firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60
If all else fails, post a link to your test page.  You can remove it when your problem is solved.
Nancy O.
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    Nancy O.
    Alt-Web Design & Publishing
    Web | Graphics | Print | Media  Specialists
    www.alt-web.com/
    www.twitter.com/altweb

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    Code errors galore:
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    Photoshop generated HTML.
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    START OVER
    From Tables to CSS Web Design Part 1 -
    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/table_to_css_pt1.html
    From Tables to CSS Web Design Part 2 -
    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/table_to_css_pt2.html
    =========================
    DW Starter Pages (CSS Layouts)
    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/introducing_new_css_layouts.html
    =========================
    Taking a Fireworks (or Photoshop)  comp to a CSS Layout in DW
    Part 1 - Initial Design
    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/dw_fw_css_pt1.html
    Part 2 - Markup preparation
    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/dw_fw_css_pt2.html
    Part 3 - Layout and CSS
    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/dw_fw_css_pt3.html
    ========================
    HTML & CSS Tutorials - http://w3schools.com/
    Learn CSS positioning in 10 Steps
    http://www.barelyfitz.com/screencast/html-training/css/positioning/
    How to Develop with CSS?
    http://phrogz.net/css/HowToDevelopWithCSS.html
    ========================
    Code Validation Tools
    CSS - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
    HTML - http://validator.w3.org/
    Best of luck,
    Nancy O.
    Alt-Web Design & Publishing
    Web | Graphics | Print | Media  Specialists 
    http://alt-web.com/

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    body{
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    color: #666666;
    font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
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    padding: 0;
    text-align: left;
    #wrapper {
    width: 770px;
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    margin: 10px auto;
    border: 1px, solid, #000000;
    #banner {
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    background-image: url(/images/CarBanner.jpg);
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    margin: 0;
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    </head>
    <body>
    <div id="wrapper">
    <div id="banner"></div>
    <div id="nav"></div>
    <ul>
    <li><a href="#">Home</a></li
    ><li><a href="#">About Us</a></li
    ><li><a href="#">Search</a></li
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    undefined
    page
    8

    You just simply haven't got the ul tag inside the 'nav'
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    ie <!-- end wrapper -->. This will help you identify
    your containers
    easier as the page gets more complex.
    <body>
    <div id="wrapper">
    <div id="banner"></div>
    <div id="nav">
    <ul>
    <li><a href="#">Home</a></li
    <li><a href="#">About Us</a></li
    <li><a href="#">Search</a></li
    </ul>
    </div><!-- end nav -->
    </div><!--end wrapper -->
    </body>
    pdenlinger wrote:
    > Hi--
    >
    > I have been using DW2004 to publish my own website, and
    lately I have just
    > started to learn CSS using one of the Macromedia modules
    which is now hosted by
    > Adobe.
    >
    > The current lesson I'm working on is Designing with CSS
    in Dreamweaver MX 2004
    > Part 3: Creating Your First Design Without Tables . The
    page I'm on is page 8.
    >
    > Here is my question:
    >
    > Although I followed the instructions for creating a nav
    list using CSS, it
    > does not render correctly in Firefox. Instead of looking
    like Fig. 13 at the
    > bottom of page 8, I only have a container with the three
    links for Home, About
    > Us and Search listed vertically with left justification
    and preceding dot to
    > mark the list. There is no background color.
    >
    > What am I doing wrong?
    >
    > To facilitate debugging, I'm going to paste in the code
    from my CSS file and
    > the HTML file. Here is the code from the CSS file:
    >
    > /* CSS Document */
    >
    > body{
    > background-color: #666666;
    > color: #666666;
    > font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    > margin: 0;
    > padding: 0;
    > text-align: left;
    >
    > }
    > #wrapper {
    > width: 770px;
    > background-color: #FFFFFF;
    > margin: 10px auto;
    > border: 1px, solid, #000000;
    > }
    > #banner {
    > height: 110px;
    > background-image: url(/images/CarBanner.jpg);
    > background-repeat: no-repeat;
    > }
    > #nav {
    > border-bottom: 1px solid #000000;
    > }
    >
    > #nav ul{
    > padding: 0;
    > margin: 0;
    > background-color: #00FF99;
    > }
    > #nav ul li{
    > display: inline;
    > padding: 0;
    > margin: 0;
    > }
    > #nav ul li a{
    > font-size:80%;
    > color: #FFFFFF;
    > background-color:#3333CC;
    > text-decoration:none;
    > padding:0 25px 0 25px;
    > border-right: 1px solid #000000;
    > text-align: center;
    > width: 9em;
    > }
    > #nav ul li a:hover, #nav ul li a:focus {
    > background-color:#990000;
    > }
    >
    > Here is the code from the XHTML file:
    >
    > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0
    Transitional//EN"
    > "
    http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
    > <html xmlns="
    http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    > <head>
    > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
    charset=iso-8859-1" />
    > <title>Untitled Document</title>
    > <link href="/CssFiles/basiclayout.css"
    rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
    > </head>
    >
    > <body>
    > <div id="wrapper">
    > <div id="banner"></div>
    > <div id="nav"></div>
    >
    >
    <a href="#">Home</a></li
    > >
    <a href="#">About Us</a></li
    > >
    <a href="#">Search</a></li
    > >
    >
    > </div>
    > </body>
    > </html>
    >
    > Thanks in advance!
    >
    > Paul
    > Denlinger
    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/css_concepts_pt3_mx200
    > 4_08.html
    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/css_concepts_pt3_mx200
    > 4_08.html
    >
    > /* CSS Document */
    >
    > body{
    > background-color: #666666;
    > color: #666666;
    > font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    > margin: 0;
    > padding: 0;
    > text-align: left;
    >
    > }
    > #wrapper {
    > width: 770px;
    > background-color: #FFFFFF;
    > margin: 10px auto;
    > border: 1px, solid, #000000;
    > }
    > #banner {
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