Using CSS instead of or with library item
I built my site using Dreamweaver 8. I used the design view
exclusively. I made a navigation bar as a library item. Utilizing
rollovers, etc. Now I have learned I should build my site utilizing
CSS and as was pointed out on this forum to me, to learn CSS and
HTML.
I am having a brain freeze. The logic escapes me as to how I
would build a navigation bar and put it on each page as I did
utilizing the library function before.
I am sure for all you pro's this is a really dumb and obvious
thing but I just don't seem to figure out the logic how to do it. I
am not talking about the CSS for the behaviors such as hover,
visited, active. This I know how to do. It is just the ability to
have a properly designed navbar and be able to put it on every page
I make.
Murry "ACE" told me not to use AP and the dreaded mm_menus so
I am trying to figure this out and build a better more code
efficient site. Mine works but is quite trashy in the code.
It can be a bit daunting.
Try going through this tutorial completely. It's a bit out of
date (using
an older version of DW), and still covers the use of tables,
but it's worth
reinforcing your basic understandings -
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/first_website_pt1.html
Then I would suggest you do this tutorial -
Taking a Fireworks comp to a CSS-based layout in Dreamweaver
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/fireworks/articles/web_standards_layouts_pt1.html
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/fireworks/articles/web_standards_layouts_pt2.html
Finally, to get a grip on how to manage menus across an
entire site, use
DW's F1 help about how to use Templates, and server-side
includes.
Templates do make your life much easier. I use the following
scheme....
First, I mentally separate the page layout into three
sections:
1. Stuff that will not change for the life of the site (i.e.,
the basic
structural elements)
2. Stuff that *could* change from time to time (e.g.,
navigation elements,
burst advertisements, section-specific navigation, etc.)
3. Stuff that *will* change from one page to the next
Then I create a template containing all class1 elements. Next
I create
server-side include files containing all class 2 elements and
place them on
the template as needed. Note - some of the class 2 elements
may be
"section-specific elements", and their placement on the
template will be
subject to the next item. Finally, I insert editable regions
to cover the
class 3 items, INCLUDING the section-specific navigation.
This allows me to just cookie-cut the rest of the site. I
estimate that
even for fairly large sites, about 80% of my work goes into
planning and
creating this template file.
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>I built my site using Dreamweaver 8. I used the design
view exclusively. I
> made a navigation bar as a library item. Utilizing
rollovers, etc. Now I
> have
> learned I should build my site utilizing CSS and as was
pointed out on
> this
> forum to me, to learn CSS and HTML.
>
> I am having a brain freeze. The logic escapes me as to
how I would build a
> navigation bar and put it on each page as I did
utilizing the library
> function
> before.
>
> I am sure for all you pro's this is a really dumb and
obvious thing but I
> just
> don't seem to figure out the logic how to do it. I am
not talking about
> the CSS
> for the behaviors such as hover, visited, active. This I
know how to do.
> It is
> just the ability to have a properly designed navbar and
be able to put it
> on
> every page I make.
>
> Murry "ACE" told me not to use AP and the dreaded
mm_menus so I am trying
> to
> figure this out and build a better more code efficient
site. Mine works
> but is
> quite trashy in the code.
>
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How to use a Spry Menu as a Library item?
Okay, this is my second post; but, with a different title.
I made a Spry menu for my Home Page. I saved it and a logo
together as a library item and placed the library item on a second
page. The links in the menu work when there is no style sheet
attached for the Spry meny and the menu appears just as text; but,
as soon as the .css style sheet for the menu is attached to the
second page, the menu appears correct except the drop down menus do
not work. I tried adding a link to the Spry Java Script file as it
is on the home page; still no luck.
I tried the same with a test file, which I have since
removed, stored at the same folder as the home page; same problem.
How are we suposed to make a workable library item with a
Spry Menu? Surely this is possible, no?
Here are the two pages I am referring to:
Good Page:
http://iculver.com/
Bad Page:
http://iculver.com/pages/AboutUs/Personal_info.htmlApologies - my mistake. You are correct, and my instructions
were
incomplete. That other bit is required too.
> Now, I thought (probably in error) that items after !--
were comments, but
> it
> seems to be required, too. I tried eliminating taht part
and the menus did
> not
> work. I need all of this last part.
The comments 'hide' the scripting from validators and older
browsers, but
it's still recognized as javascript, since the comments occur
INSIDE a
<script> tag.
> these Spry Menus in Libraries easier to use...)
It's not so hard once you get all the pieces together.
1. Create the library item as described.
2. Make sure that each page that is to carry this library
item has the
required links in the head (to the CSS and the js files), AND
in the body.
Why not use a template instead? That way, all of these links
are managed
for you.
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> Hummm...
>
> Now, don't yell at me, okay? I'm a goLive switcher and
really a graphic
> designer, not a coder...
>
> So, It seems from the above message that I am to
establish the links to
> the
> script and the css file before inserting the library
item. But, either
> way,
> that didn;t do the trick for me. I did find a bit of
code in one of the
> pages
> that seems to be required.
>
> It seems I also need to insert this just before the
close of the body tag:
>
> <script type="text/javascript">
> <!--
> var MenuBar1 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar",
> {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif",
> imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
> //-->
> </script>
>
> Now, I thought (probably in error) that items after !--
were comments, but
> it
> seems to be required, too. I tried eliminating taht part
and the menus did
> not
> work. I need all of this last part.
>
> I'm sorry I'm such a dope. I probably did something
funny when I was
> styling
> the menu. (I do hope Adobe can accommodate dopes lime
me, though, and make
> these Spry Menus in Libraries easier to use...)
>
> Thanks for all of your help! Really!
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How do I change the titles of a couple of pages, eg "Biography" to "About" and how do I delete some pages?
This question really has nothing to do with Library items. And for benefit of those not following other threads, the link to the pages is here -
http://www.bbcooper.com/film_tv.html
So - what do you want to cover in this thread: titles, deleting other pages, or Library items? How about we start with my first suggestion to you in the previous thread -
In DW's Code view for the film_tv.html page, change this -
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
to this -
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
Save the page. Make a similar change in any other page in your site containing that XML prolog
("<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>"), i.e., delete it.
Now, to get on with the Library items, in your local site, you will find a file called "main_nav.lbi" in the Library items folder. Open it in DW. Again, in Code view, delete all of this -
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"> <!-- function MM_swapImgRestore() { //v3.0 var i,x,a=document.MM_sr; for(i=0;a&&i<a.length&&(x=a[i])&&x.oSrc;i++) x.src=x.oSrc; } function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0 var d=document; if(d.images){ if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Array(); var i,j=d.MM_p.length,a=MM_preloadImages.arguments; for(i=0; i<a.length; i++) if (a[i].indexOf("#")!=0){ d.MM_p[j]=new Image; d.MM_p[j++].src=a[i];}} }
function MM_findObj(n, d) { //v4.01
var p,i,x; if(!d) d=document; if((p=n.indexOf("?"))>0&&parent.frames.length) {
d=parent.frames[n.substring(p+1)].document; n=n.substring(0,p);}
if(!(x=d[n])&&d.all) x=d.all[n]; for (i=0;!x&&i<d.forms.length;i++) x=d.forms[i][n];
for(i=0;!x&&d.layers&&i<d.layers.length;i++) x=MM_findObj(n,d.layers[i].document);
if(!x && d.getElementById) x=d.getElementById(n); return x;
function MM_swapImage() { //v3.0
var i,j=0,x,a=MM_swapImage.arguments; document.MM_sr=new Array; for(i=0;i<(a.length-2);i+=3)
if ((x=MM_findObj(a[i]))!=null){document.MM_sr[j++]=x; if(!x.oSrc) x.oSrc=x.src; x.src=a[i+2];}
//-->
</script>
<body onLoad="MM_preloadImages('../images/navigation/home_f2.gif','../images/navigation/recordings_f2.g if','../images/navigation/theatre_f2.gif','../images/navigation/tv_f2.gif','../images/navi gation/reviews_f2.gif','../images/navigation/contact_f2.gif','../images/navigation/links_f 2.gif','../images/navigation/biog_f2.gif')">
so that the library item's code looks begins like this -
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<table width="800" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr align="left" valign="top">
Save that Library item and allow DW to update all pages.
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Help: Using templates with Library items
Hey there dreamweaver users
Just a quick question it might sound dumb but im new to the dreamweaver world and would be greatful if you could answer this question i have.
I have made a template for my site and i wish to update all the child pages with a library item i have inserted into the main template,
ive put it into the main template as a footer navigation links and then left dreamweaver to update all my other child pages with this library item.
the thing is it never works am i doing something wrong ? really could do with some help.
Thank you :]I only have one Template and this is it
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
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<li><a href="../packages/cruises.htm">Cruises</a></li>
<li><a href="../packages/inclusive.htm">All Inclusive</a></li>
<li><a href="../packages/resorts.htm">Resorts</a></li>
<li><a href="../packages/index.htm">Contact Us</a></li>
</ul>
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</div>
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<h1>Heading 1 Here</h1>
<p>main content here</p>
<h2>Heading 2 </h2>
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<ul>
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<li><a href="../packages/index.htm">Packages</a></li>
<li><a href="../specials/index.htm"> Specials</a></li>
<li><a href="../galleries/index.htm">Galleries</a></li>
<li><a href="../testimonials/index.htm">Maps</a></li>
<li><a href="../testimonials/index.htm">Testimonials</a></li>
<li><a href="../newsletter/index.htm">Newsletter</a></li>
<li><a href="../contact.htm">Contact</a></li>
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Dreamweaver Teamplate with Library Item for Navigation/Sidebar not updating editable classes
I have a Dreamweaver Template that contains two Library items. One Library item is my navigation bar, the other is a sidebar that shows different content depending on what page you are on. I'm assigning an editable class "active" to the navigation bar to show you are on a particular page, and also assigning the editable class "active" to the sidebar to reveal a portion of the sidebar with links pertaining to that specific page. The default value for the class is "hidden". So what is happening is when I open a page I have created and "edit" the Library Items in it to edit these classes, it resets resets all the other pages on the site to the default class values. How am I able to use editable classes and Library Items to achieve this kind of functionality? The idea is to only have ONE navigaton bar to update on the site and to only have ONE sidebar item to update. Here is an example of the sidebar and navigation in action so you can see what I'm going for. Notice the green button in the navigation bar (that is a list item with the class "active" which is an editable class in the Library Item, also notice the tan links in the sidebar, that is an unordered list that has an editable class of "active" in the Library Items --- these editable classes reset to their defaults when updating the Library Item on the website).
http://www.brumleve.org/joe/temp/CAP/mission.htmlIn my understanding, whenever you edit the contents of a library item, it will update all other occurances of this library item on the rest of the site. That's "working as designed" as far as I know, unless you break the link by telling it to not update - which kinda defeats the purpose I think.
But theres another way to do this using template properties, i#ve been using this approach myself a couple of times:
Write your navigation bar in the template (.dwt) file itself, then select the class= of your first menu item and choose .. (names might be off, I am using a non-English copy of DW): "modify > template > make attribute editable" from the main menu. Do so for all your menu items and name these new template properties something like "item_x_class"
You'll end up with something like this in your template source:
<div class="@@(item_1_class)@@">
and a matching
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Now, on each page, you can set the class within the template properties dialog ("modify > template properties"). If your main menu changes, it won't overwrite your template properties, but still update all pages when you do make a change to the menu.
If you're using multiple templates for your site, consider nesting templates, so the master template already includes your navbar and all subsequent templates will "inherit" changes to the navbar code (sans the editable class property).
Hope this helps.. or at least gives you an idea for further experiments..
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My preference is to use a server side include (SSI) file which are for all intents and purposes, the same thing, but when you update it, you simply upload that one file and it automatically populates the changes across your site whereever it is used on all pages that use it. Much simpler and cleaner.
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Error message with library item in template
I'm not sure if this is a PM issue or a DWCS3 issue. The only
way to find out is to ask.
I have gone through the process of creating a a library item
of a
PopMagic menu according the the video provided by P7. Works
well.
Then I added the library item to an existing DWCS3 template
and saved
it. When I attempt to create "new from template" page from
the template
menu, I get this error message
http://www.jdcdemo.com/blf/error.html
If I do the same with a template without the menu, the
error message goes away.
If I create a page with from a template where I've left an
editable
region for the menu and then insert the menu and save the
page, I also
get the error message, but the page seems to work ok.
Since I can't create a new page with the template, I opened
it and saved it as a page:
http://www.jdcdemo.com/baim/BLF8/error-message.html
What is going on here and is there a fix?
Thanks,
JoeLook at your code. Count <body> tags. How many do you
get? Yeah - that's
wrong. You didn't follow the video....
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"camelbreath" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> I'm not sure if this is a PM issue or a DWCS3 issue. The
only way to find
> out
> is to ask.
> I have gone through the process of creating a a library
item of a
> PopMagic menu according the the video provided by P7.
Works well.
> Then I added the library item to an existing DWCS3
template and saved
> it. When I attempt to create "new from template" page
from the template
> menu, I get this error message
>
>
http://www.jdcdemo.com/blf/error.html
>
> If I do the same with a template without the menu, the
> error message goes away.
>
> If I create a page with from a template where I've left
an editable
> region for the menu and then insert the menu and save
the page, I also
> get the error message, but the page seems to work ok.
>
> Since I can't create a new page with the template, I
opened it and saved
> it as
> a page:
>
>
http://www.jdcdemo.com/baim/BLF8/error-message.html
>
> What is going on here and is there a fix?
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
> -
Active Content solution with Library items
Does anyone know how I can get Adobe's Active Content
solution (the Multiple Occurrences one) to work with Dreamweaver
Library items?
It works fine for inline <object> tags, but when pages
include Library items (which have the same solution applied to
them) it doesn't apply the fix to these items.
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No Behaviors with Library Items?
Created a library item and wanted to insert rollover images
for the items
but the behaviors menu is greyed out. Can you not use
behaviors on library
items? Do I have to delete the asset from the library, rework
the .html
file, and then recreate the library item?> Can you not use behaviors on library items? Do I have to
delete the asset
> from the library, rework the .html file, and then
recreate the library
> item?
That's correct. All behaviors must be applied BEFORE the
library item is
created. A well-formed Library item cannot contain
<html>, <head>, or
<body> tags, and therefore has no place to put behavior
javascript or onLoad
events.
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> Created a library item and wanted to insert rollover
images for the items
> but the behaviors menu is greyed out. Can you not use
behaviors on
> library items? Do I have to delete the asset from the
library, rework the
> .html file, and then recreate the library item?
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Using bapi_po_create1 to create PO with return item - Order Combination
Hello,
There's a shipping tab that appears in a purchase return item, and in it there's a flag called Order Combination.
Only i can't seem to find a way to change that flag using this BAPI, nor using bapi_po_change.
Any ideas?
Thank you in advance.
DuarteHi
Its a setting that you maintain in the customer master reord that defaults it.
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I have created a simple navigation bar with a separate color for "over" and saved it as a library item. A warning box indicates that the item may not work the same as the original as the CSS may not be copied. What is the simplest method for correcting this?
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SSI's
http://www.smartwebby.com/web_site_design/server_side_includes.asp
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http://forums.adobe.com/message/2112460#2112460
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Relative referencing using library items
Hi,
I use a menu which is a library item. When the library item
is imported into the html pages, DW changes the relative references
to web pages. Specifically, a link to a page in the main directory
is changed from "../link.htm" to "/link.htm" as the library items
are located in a subdirectory to the main folder.
However, for the links to work, the code needs to be
"link.htm" for the link to work - the "/" confuses the browsers.
Is there any way of changing the settings in DW to not insert
the "/"?
LotteIF it is a plain html A HREF link in the library item, IF
it's the correct
path IN the .lbi file, dw will manage the path and it will
work anywhere in
the site.
Open the .lbi library item file.
do a link check, File-->Check Page-->Check Links.
fix any broken links so they work IN the .lbi file.
A second possible-
"../link.htm" to
"/link.htm"
/link.htm is a site root relative path.
IF /link.htm doesn't work- what should it be?
Does this site have it's own domain name, or is it hosted in
a subfolder of
another domain?
example urls with the broken links please if things aren't
clear.
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Hi all,
I have a navbar that I created in FW and exported as a DW
library item. When I drag and drop the library item (navbar) into a
site page, I get an error every time I try to save that page. The
error states that the body tag was in the wrong place and has been
moved to the right place. The problem is never fixed though and I
keep being spammed by the error dialog.
In reviewing the code, it appears that the library item has
its own body and preload. So adding the library item to the page
causes a duplication of the body tags and preload images code.
Any thoughts as to how I can fix this or avoid it would be
greatly appreciated.You are right, no <htm> <body> or css styles go
into a library item.
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"Mabou2" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Hi Osgood,
>
> I have a vague recollection of hearing or reading that
library items are
> not
> supposed to have anything like a <body> tag or
code that makes them act
> like an
> html page, but I can't remember clearly enough to take
action.
>
> I would love to hear from someone who knows the library
paradigm.
>
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