Legal Consolidation - Entity Method Change Case [BPC 7M]

Hi.
We're working on Consolidation Consulting Project.
We've faced consolidation problem, Some entities' consoldiation method was changed to Subsidiary from Equity Method.
Please let me know how to keep working this project in this case.
(about requiring data processing or dimension, business rule setting. etc)
Edited by: tae-youn.kim on Oct 7, 2009 2:15 PM

Hi nilanjan,
I was pertaining to the Entities with ID that starts with "E". Anyway, I tried removing the values "Y" for property "ELIM" in the Entity dimension and removed the values for "ENTITY" and STORE_ENTITY in the Groups dimension and I don't encounter the error and consolidation calculates okay.
Thanks,
Marvin

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