Length of component IDs

Hi,
I recall that there used to be a suggestion not to go over 7 characters for component ID for performance reasons. I also recall that JDev 11G was used to give a warning when you go over 7 chars at some point.
With the current release(build 5407) it doesn't give this warning and the tool itself gives longer default IDs for components like lineGraph,pivotTable etc..
I wonder whether that suggestion is still valid or not.. Should we worry about this? We would like to give more meaningfull names to our components if this is not an issue any more.
Thanks

Hi,
Exactly for the button and input components. Actually, we use the most explicit id possible for the latter like email for email fields, firstName and so on. this often help the browser's auto-complete engine which is a boon for some users. The hint for NamingContainer is because those ids are used as prefixes for their children's clientId, so if you have 3 NamingContaines within each others, you could end up with client ids looking like:
thePageMainTemplate:theMainContentRegion:theDataTable:<componentId>
Now imagine the table contains 30 rows of 5 columns each including 3 component, then you end up with 54 characters for NamingContainer ids, so: 54 characters * 30 rows * 5 columns * 3 components = ~24kb only for the ids NamingContainer parts on the table. If you reduce each id to 3 characters, you get: 12 characters (3 char * 3 naming containers + 3 separators) * 30 rows * 5 columns * 3 components = ~5kb
As for the NamingContainer, you have to check the UIComponent classes themselves. The most known, however, are <af:table/>, <af:pageTemplate/>, <f:subView/>, <af:region/>, <af:iterator/> and such.
Regards,
~ Simon

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When I name the ids of various ADF Faces components more then 7 characters, the jdev compiler shoots out warning messages that component Ids should be less than 7 for optimal performance.
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Simon is correct on all counts.
The choice of 7 as the upper limit is fairly arbitrary. We were running into cases internally where ADF Faces users were choosing very long/descriptive (15-20 character) ids for naming containers. This ended up showing up during server-side profiling, and also resulted page content size bloat, especially for ids of root naming containers like page templates which appear everywhere. The audit rule was added to help clue folks in to the fact that there are consequences when choosing long ids.
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a quotation from
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