Leopard and OS 8 clients

Hi everyone!
I have a leopard server running (well kind of) and unfortunately I have to keep to 2 Macs with OS 8.5 in my network. An upgrade to OS 9.xx is impossible because a specific software (CellQuest 3.2.1) will not run stable under OS 9.
I'm trying to access my server via afp from OS 8.5 clients and get an error message telling me that the AFP protocol of my server is not supported. It worked well with OS X 10.3 server.
Does anybody have a solution for this problem?
Thanks in advance
Frank

If you're attempting to connect to a share point via AFP that's hosted by your Leopard Server from the Mac OS 8.5 system, you'll need to install the AppleShare 3.8.8 on your 8.5 system first. Download AppleShare 3.8.8 from here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60792
--Gerrit

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Hello,
Now I have to use Mac OS X Tiger Server Software Update Server and OSX Tiger Client.
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Message was edited by: Ezz
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