Listen to program change on single midi port?

Hi,
I am trying to control MainStage via program change messages. Is there a way to make MainStage listen to program change messages only on a single midi port? It seems like MainStage switches patches no matter on what port or midi channel program changes arrive.
Thanks
Jens

Yes, that would do the trick if I did not want to change MainStage patches remotely. I should have made clearer what my setup is and how I want to use MainStage:
I have two ot three keyboards attached to my Mac via USB. When I change programs on one of them, a small application that I made myself recieves it and sends program changes to the other keyboards. It also loads MidiPipe setups that I use to route midi data to and from the two keyboards and to another sequenzer. So all keyboards need to be connected and program change messages have to be sent. My goal is to have that application also switch MainStage patches. Because I need to rearrange the patches in my 'master' keyboard frequently, I need to have MainStage respond to the program changes from my app and not to the ones that are sent from the keyboard, so that the right sounds are loaded indepently of what the order of patches in the keyboard is.
But I think it just can't be done with MainStage that way. I think it should be a very basic thing for every midi application to choose where to recieve its data from. I thought maybe there is a hidden preference or something. But it seems like I have to wait for MainStage 2 because I need to have program change messages arrive at the computer. Maybe then it supports AppleScript to change patches this way.
Thanks anyway
Jens

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peterslade wrote:
BUT . . . now (in either Edit or Perform mode) when I change the pattern on the Monomachine (sending a Program Change message), the knob doesn't move. I see the Program Change message being received by MainStage in the MIDI monitor, but it doesn't get routed to the screen control.
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I send program change messages from my midi controller and the messages are accepted by mainstage 3 as shown in the midi message window,but i can't make a selection of my pathes even if i have set a program change number for each patch.Why is that happening?
I use a novation SL mki or a KORG Triton Le or a m-audio axiom 49 as midi controllers.The program change messages are transmitted by all the devices i mentioned above and shown as received in the midi messages window of mainstage 3.
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